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Hi all, was wondering if anyone has any opinions on these guns? Pro, con, good, bad or any other comments on this gun?
Also, is the weight in 12ga really 6 1/4 lbs?
Thanks so much!!!
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Assume you're speaking of the sxs. I'm pretty certain 12ga weight is not 6 1/4. I was doing an article on Fausti Stefano, the Italian company that makes these guns for Marlin, and weighed one of their 20's as part of my research. (Did not get a chance to shoot one.) It weighed about 6 1/4 as I recall.
The gun is basically the same, other than cosmetics, as the Weatherby Athena d'Italia. I did get a chance to shoot one of those and thought it was a pretty decent gun. The Marlin Elsie is several hundred dollars cheaper.
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I seems kind of silly to call it an LC Smith... I can find few similarities with a real LC (unlike the Parker Repros which have interchangable parts with the originals). Outdoor Life just gave the Marlin a crappy rating and that is rare. Interesting, I think 3 of the 5 shotguns they reviewed are SxS... I bet we're gonna see a lot of double gun junk on the shelves soon.
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Having just looked at a 28 gage "Elsie" It seems like a decent SxS for the $1100 price I was quoted. The gun I examined was made in Spain by Zabala Hermanos this is a production shop.Terry Wieland says their guns "represent decent value for the money". That to me is the key, these are not Elsies,or Parkers or even Sterlingworths.I was impressed with the gun relative to its cost,if I should decide to purchase, it will be used for early season doves, and quail.I could use one of my Fox,s or Parker but these are not 28 gage which I have a hankering to use on these birds.
I don,t want to spend a bundle on this gun, frankly I also own two other 28,s but they are not SxS. The gun seems far from being a club. Wood to metal fit and checkering is good,finish is good,bluing as good as any production gun including my Beretta $3000 682 O/U. Water table and barrel flats are jewelled -a nice touch.My only complaint is single trigger ( its selective ) and 26 inch barrels. I have compared it to a friends DeHahn and conclude that its a better value for the price, no engraving but then I like case colors and the gold bird inlays are attractive in MHO.
It has a semi splinter fore arm with an Anson latch, barrels are chrome plated and is supplied with three choke tubes, IC, Mod and full. The DeHahn is fixed at IC and Mod. Its locked with two underbites, the Dehahn has a cross bolt. Only time and use will tell how good the lock is, I suspect it will stand up to the riggers of some early season dove or Quail hunts. In my opinion after recently examining one I feel its not a bad gun for the asking price.
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Not meaning to be rude or crude.., just an opinion. Why call the gun an LC Smith? Why not call it a Howitzer, or a Springfield, or an Army Navy?
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Because Marlin owns the "name".
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Don's got it nailed. All about marketing.
Recently saw one of the Zabala-made 28's. (Apparently they're making the 28 and 410 Marlin Elsies, while Fausti continues to make the 20's and 12's.) I didn't think it looked bad either, for a gun in that price range. Did not have a chance to shoot it.
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Interesting that they're using two different manufacturers for the "same" model. I recently saw one of the 28's sitting between a 12 and a 20 at Gander Mountain. The 28 gauge (apparently Zabala) gun had a nicer wood finish by far. Go figure. One thing I like about these guns is the checkering pattern on the buttstock. It's a bit much but has an "American," even Western, look about it. Don has a point on the trademark ownership of the Elsie name. The good news is that there are some mass-marketed side by sides available now that are hopefully above the class of a Stoeger or Baikal.
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I was real disapointed in the marlin smith. i was expecting something simular to an old L.C. I really can't see any simularity.
The 410 is built on a 20ga frame making it weigh just as much as the 12ga.
So i purchased a CZ instead. This small frame 410 is a wonderfull shooting gun with allot of features you would see on more expensive guns. The only Complaint i would have about the CZ is really my fault. I should have gotten an upgraded wood.
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