Off brands generate very little interest in pumps from what I have seen. Several Union Firearm pumps have sold for 200 or less in 12. Seen Spencer's in high condition get almost no interest. I think pumps, other than winchester 12 and 42 there is just very little demand. A few diehard Ithaca fans looking for early guns might buy now and then. But pump sales are only better than bolt action shotguns on gunbroker.