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I think you know there's one huge difference. 'Stock market' means more than one stock, diversity. The code word that gets negotiated into many contracts, 'employee ownership'. If you're lucky, the company is viable. Sadly, some contracts are negotiated knowing the company may end up being worthless.

Why should we even believe that is your Ithaca model 37 Jagermeister? Why don't you show your true colors and show us your Obama bumper sticker?

You proudly voted for the anti-gunner twice. No one is fooled about what you are and why you are here. I have nothing to prove to your kind.

Maybe you should try telling us that you were close personal friends with JFK or MLK. Or perhaps you could tell us about your award winning wines which were actually made by someone else. Have you written any letters to the NRA suggesting that we should just roll over and let Obama have his way with us?

If you are an individual living in WI and your company fully funded your pension my hats off to you and that's the way it ought to work.
However if your one of the individuals that Scott Walker managed to overcome because they were ripping off the taxpayers I hope you die in povery because that's what you deserve.
Jim

I suspect you are what Ed Good suggested and probably do not own any guns.

My bumpers have no stickers. Next presidential election will be enjoyable as I can sleep longer and not rush to the poll in AM prior to work. There is one candidate that is trying to do what is good for America and we all know he will not get the nomination. I predict out next president will be Hillary Rodham Klinton.

It is 12ga 30" fully choked barrel gun. Not very useful for hunting, but nice to have around 4th of July.

PJ, it would make an OK gun for trap shooting. You have to do some messing around when you reload, but, I usually just slip a round in the magazine, and pump the fired gun just before I call for my bird. You have to be aware with the 37 that the safety will not go to the on position unless the gun is cocked, or, pumped after the shot.
The Mossberg 500 is a better design for that use, as the safety is right on top, and will go on safe whether the gun is cocked, or, not. It is pretty easy to just drop a fresh round into the open action and shut it, just before calling for your bird.
I suppose it bears mentioning that there exist more efficient ways of making noise on the 4th than an older model 37, but, I digress.
Further digress, the clattering of the bones from the skeletons dancing around in Hillary's closet is beginning to become deafening, and I suspect you are wrong about that. I hope so, at any rate.



Best,
Ted

I believe that Public and Private pension plans play by different rules.

I think that private plans are required to fund their plans to a different standard than public ones. Businesses have a better idea as to what they have to contribute as far a private one's so they are forced to plan, and be fiduciary responsible.

Public pensions, I believe, are not so constrained. This is intentional, as taxes would have to be significantly higher in order to fully fund them. Government has exempted themselves from the same requirements as the Real World.

Democrat politicians have lied and promised government employees benefits far in excess of what is able to be supported in terms of Economics. Government pensions are also invested in the private sector, so policies that negatively affect business also negatively affect the pensions as well. This is the contradiction, Democrats voting for politicians that are out to destroy the very foundation of their excessive benefits. Of course, the reason is to create overall dependency, Democrats prefer entitled Welfare Cases, as well as entitled Union members who are totally ignorant of both economics as well as mathematics. In reality, government employees are simply another form of Welfare Case. They are promised, on a religious basis, other citizen's freedom simply on the basis that their Democrat religious leaders told them that they are morally entitled to it. They are the "Blessed", or "Chosen", or "Enlightened" ones.

This continual religious denial and dismissal of both economics and mathematics is absurd. Especially when someone tries to defend it, never based on facts, but only on assertions of statist, subjective morality.

doesn't matter....a binding promise from the government is a binding promise ..if the government signed a contract with its workers it is bound to follow through no matter how stupid you think it is..........just like when a bank promises you a certain return on your deposit....all the double talk in the world wont change that....
BTW...My pension was not affected at all by Walkers policies...I was a quasi government worker.....the government has a contract with the company that I worked for, to manage and service a government owned agency.......all comes down to convoluted paper work.....government owned but run and managed by an outside company....

You're missing my point, the one about Individual Freedom and Equality.

Of course this is rationalized by folks being paid to vote for the statist sociopaths that have religiously convinced them of their unconstitutional pseudo-elitism and entitlement. This is part of the problem, not the solution. Pointing to the success of inflictive sociopaths as a way of justifying further infliction is absurd, but typical of the religious. Again, it's based on subjective statist religious morality, not individual freedom, equality, or for that matter mathematics or economics. This is an example of how the Constitution has been subverted using simple majority rule, in clear violation of the Constitutional concept of Freedom and Equality.

I don't think it's stupid, that would be an anti-intellectual response merely based on subjective morality using Demonization.

I think it is sociopathically and religiously unconstitutional, and in clear violation of both the "Establishment" and "Equal Protection" clauses of the Constitution.

I certainly didn't agree to it. And I'm every bit the equal of the politicians who did.

Roosevelt made a public promise to keep the United States out of another foreign war when he was 1st elected President. Obama made a public promise to have the most "0pen" administration when he was elected. What happened to these 2 socialists when they broke their promises? Nothing. George Bush was elected as President with a promise of "no more taxes". What happened to him when he broke his promise was he was defeated in the next election.
I guess one's political philosophy has a lot to do with keeping promises or whether you think others owe you a living.
Jim