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I shoot several guns that are lighter than the ones posted by Greg and I'm sure as heck not hunting grouse and woodcock in dense thickets. I wouldn't want a larger gun that light but the ones I shoot in that weight range are all 28 gauge and smaller shooting payloads between 1/2 and 3/4 oz max. Don't doubt their effectiveness.

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Maybe we are being too hard on Ted. Maybe he doesn't hunt. Maybe he doesn't shoot. Maybe he doesn't like guns. Maybe he doesn't like girls! Oops, maybe I have gone too far!

Tell us it ain't so, Ted. I do have a 10 Ga Prussian hammer Daly, too! Pre-1891 so no proof marks. S/N 424 and only other mark is a "CH" on the action flats. Any ideas as to maker?

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C'mon Pete,
You know we want to see those Daly sisters!!
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Originally Posted By: Pete
Maybe we are being too hard on Ted. Maybe he doesn't hunt. Maybe he doesn't shoot. Maybe he doesn't like guns. Maybe he doesn't like girls! Oops, maybe I have gone too far!

Tell us it ain't so, Ted.


OK. It ain't so, Pete.



Same girl for ten years. She still has the leather and wore it last Palm Sunday-to church.

Yes, some guys shoot light guns, well. But, a lot of them don't. I have a 6 lb. 12 I shoot pretty well, on birds, but, clay sports give me fits with the gun.

Hey, here is a picture of the same girl holding the 6 lb gun. The girl floats between 113 and 115 lbs, I think that is a nice weight for a girl. That is Lloyd, and his boy, with my wife and my son in the picture:



I think it was McIntosh who reported his 28 was a solid six pounds, and he wouldn't want it any other way. My 28 is 5lb 12ozs, and I wouldn't mind if it were 6. But, you know, I don't want my girl to weigh more than about 115.

Like I said, thats a real good weight for a girl.

So, Pete, do you like girls? All you guys that shoot the light guns so well, lets see a picture (and weight) of your girl.

If you like girls. No picture, no weight, I guess we can just assume you don't like girls.

I've been told there is nothing wrong with that. Not for me, but, it would be OK for you guys.


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So when your girl gets to 116, we can send her this post?

Yeah, for trap, I'd take more weight. However, I'd rather shoot birds than trap. Clay doesn't eat very well, but if you like it, Ted, go for it.

I was hunting pheasants one day with a 6# Beretta 686 when some honkers came over. I switched from 1 1/4 oz to 1 7/8 oz and fired two shots. My hunting buddy ran over and yelled "Why did you shoot the second time when it blew up the first time?" I guess it jumped pretty good when I fired and pushed me back quite a bit. Right round and gun for the right game.

There is a difference between hunting and clays. Light guns are much quicker and a greater joy to carry in certain circumstances. I thoroughly enjoy chukar hunting, but they are devilish creatures and love running uphill to create heart attacks for hunters and their old dogs alike. Being a devilish creature myself, I fish during the day and chukar hunt in the late afternoon. I drive to the base of a 20' wall of rimrock curving away from me and hunt as they are beginning to roost. They fly downhill and run back up out of sight along the curve of the rimrock. I pick up my birds which allows them time to get back up to roost again. I then go further around the curve and am into them again. My only uphill/downhill movement is to pick up birds or have my dog do all the work. After a half mile of easy walking, I turn around and do it all over again. All I have to worry about is the change from left hand flushes to right hand flushes. A 6# gun is a joy even for easy walking. My biggest hunting problem without a dog now is telling the difference between the gray back of the chukar and the gray rock on the ground and the yellow breasts from the yellow cheat grass. You can look right at them and not see them.

Taking photos today.

Ted, what is your recipe for clays?

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I'm with Pete on the light guns for rough hunting. Normally I don't like anything less than 6 1/2 pounds for hunting and for clays I prefer 7 pounds or a little more. But when the birds are trying to kill you, like here in Hell's Canyon in Idaho I really like my Webley 700 12 gauge weighing exactly 6 pounds. Deadly on birds--not on me. Less than 6 pounds I just can't handle though they're cute.





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Pete,
Do you like girls? Hey, take a picture of your girl holding one of the guns. If you like guys, don't take that picture, we can do without it.

Just sayin'.

You know, I shot on a trap league for, like, two decades. It was a great excuse to drink beer in the off season. I never used that gun the girl is holding, however. It's too light.

I shoot some skeet and five stand for practice. I'll use the gun for that. Hey, I need lots of practice, especially with the light guns.

We don't eat clay, Pete. I shoot at some. Wash it off the dog's feet, or my boots from time to time, but, never eat it. If you got a receipe for clay, post it, with the picture of your new guns, and your girl.

Trust me Pete, at 116, she still looks fine. Here is a picture at about 120.



The girl was 6 months pregnant in that photo, Pete. We were at a car show, with our Olds. She never has weighed more than 124, and, that was right when she had our son.

So, you like girls, Pete?

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One morning this last season I took these thirteen wild bobwhite with sixteen shells. The gun I used is a Parker 28ga GH, 26" damascus barrels, choked full and full, straight grip stock 14-1/4 x 1-3/4 x 3, 5-3/4 pounds. The cartridges were RSTs, 5/8 oz of #8s, 1150 fps. Didn't lose a single bird.



Yep, it is damn near impossible to hit a bird with a light gun, much less one with short barrels and a big stock drop.



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So, do you like girls, Pete?


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Don't know anything about your guns Ted, but your "girl" is a real looker AND so is that beautiful 442!!!!! Congrats on both!!


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