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Originally Posted By: Pete
The old British standard is the 96/1 rule. Or 96 oz of gun to 1 oz of lead. That equates to 7 1/2# for 1 1/4oz shot or 6# for 1 oz. Of course, today's soft recoil pads can up that a bit or an automatic should you be a heathen.

Of course, serious shooters can go higher. A friend and his wife are BOTH in the Trapshooter's Hall of Fame. He uses a Krieghoff which I imagine is 8-8 1/2# and uses 1 oz and 7/8oz for doubles. I imagine the 7/8 oz is for the first shot. Of course for the hundreds of rounds shot in a day, that is a good idea. He has over 600,000 rounds out of that one gun. He sends it in every two years to be rejuvinated.


I think the Rule of 96 makes good sense for volume shooting. After all, it was devised with driven shooting in mind. Back then, your standard Brit game gun was a 2 1/2" 12ga rated for a 1 1/8 oz shot charge. So a gun that weighs around 6/12, give or take a bit. (Eventually, the standard Brit game cartridge ended up being more like 1 1/16 oz.) If you're shooting several boxes of those over the course of a driven day, it's a good idea to have a gun that's heavy enough.

However, that rule is pretty much out the window these days. Back then, all loads of a given shot charge were very close to identical in terms of velocity. But that hasn't been the case for a long time. There's a big difference, in terms of recoil, between a light 1 1/8 target load at 1145 fps and one that's moving 1400 fps.

And hunting as we do in this country, where you may only fire a few shots in a day to get your limit of, say, 3 pheasants, you can certainly stretch the rule of 96 a lot farther than if you're shooting several boxes, or 100 sporting clays targets. I don't have any problem shooting RST's 1 1/4 oz pheasant loads at 1200 fps in a gun that weighs around 6 1/2 pounds (although I usually shoot lighter loads than that), even though that old Brit rule says my gun ought to weigh 7 1/2. And believe me, if I were going to shoot very many 1 1/4 oz loads at 1500 fps through a double, I'd want one that weighs a lot more than 7 1/2!

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Larry, saying the rule of 96 "is pretty much out the window these days" seems to put your case too strongly. It's still a useful benchmark for comfortable shooting -- one just needs to keep in mind that it's not absolute, and make allowances for your points about load velocities and high vs. low volume shooting.

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Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
All you guys that shoot the light guns so well, lets see a picture (and weight) of your girl.


Ted, I'm not sure whether or not I shoot a gun "well" but I never seem to get outdone by anyone hunting with me. I've never shot a round of skeet in my life so I have nothing by which to accurately judge ability.

I only have a few picture of Mrs. Snipe Hunter uploaded but I will share them. I have no idea what she weighs and asking her would only get me in trouble. The first is the two of us last summer up in the mountains. The second is her up in yankee land a couple of months ago and the third is her earning her keep out in the easiest walking snipe habitat you will ever see.

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She's hot, Skip! Love those redheads. Great pictures, you got a good 'un there.
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It's all about how much time you spend shooting a light gun. I shoot a light gun quite a bit on clay targets and don't have much of a problem. I also shoot my 9+ pound Krieghoff and again don't have much of a problem.

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Ok, so Skip likes girls. By extension, I deduce John does, also. Perry, too. Thanks, by the way, Perry. We still have the Olds.

Still no word from Pete, however. Hmm. He started all this.

My girl wouldn't think to carry a gun, Skip. You are lucky in that regard. She will tag along, likes being with her son, dog, and husband (maybe in that order, I'm not positive) and enjoys a walk in the woods.

We killed some time in northern MN. this past fall, and it was great to have her along. It would be nice if she learned to hunt, but, just having her along is its own reward. The weather was so nice, we probably should have concentrated on fishing on Lake of the Woods, but, just getting away is great. Notice in the photo above, she is wearing snow pants, and it was about 75 degrees. Here she is, kicked back, in her sweats, at the cabin we stayed at.



So, Pete-Do you like girls?

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Actually, Ted, I prefer women to girls, but your daughter there IS very cute.

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The daughter is going to be 1 year old, this month. Nice little Setter out of Shadow Oak Bo. Closest I've got to a daughter, anyway.
The girl is going to be 50 this year, but, is remarkably age resistant.
A good thing, no?

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It's a good thing in guns, too.

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I like girls, guns, and girls on guns:




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