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I can be a streaky shooter. The longest run I've ever made on birds was 27. Preserve pheasants, but GOOD preserve birds. Parker Repro 28ga, about 5 3/4#. A couple of those birds did require a 2nd barrel, but there were also 2 true doubles.
Ted lives in grouse and woodcock country. You don't want anything much heavier than 6# for those critters, and preferably less if you spend much time pushing popple--where you're doing a lot of one-hand carrying while you part the brush with the other.
Those light guns are not the best choice for sporting clays or trap. Skeet . . . I shot some straights with that Repro 28ga, with a sub-6# Sauer 20, and with my current Ithaca Classic Doubles 20, at a little over 5 3/4#. I'm not going to beat any serious competitive skeet shooters other than on rare (and, for me, happy!) occasions, but I actually like shooting those light guns at skeet, with 3/4 oz loads. Makes me very familiar with mounting that light gun, when it comes bird season in the fall. And if we're talking grouse and woodcock, I need all the help I can get!
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I have a 20 gauge Fox that weighs 5 1/4 lbs with 26 inch barrels.I restocked it in super fancy lightweight Claro and removed some metal here and there. It is a deadly woodcock gun for me. Bobby
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What do you mean when you say you "removed some metal here and there"? I understand drilling holes in stocks underneath the pad, etc, but this term escapes me??
Perry M. Kissam NRA Patriot Life Member
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One morning this last season I took these thirteen wild bobwhite with sixteen shells. The gun I used is a Parker 28ga GH, 26" damascus barrels, choked full and full, straight grip stock 14-1/4 x 1-3/4 x 3, 5-3/4 pounds. The cartridges were RSTs, 5/8 oz of #8s, 1150 fps. Didn't lose a single bird.  Yep, it is damn near impossible to hit a bird with a light gun, much less one with short barrels and a big stock drop. Mike; The only thing that would have made that a better story is if you were hung over when you accomplished that feat. 3" drop, I might as well shoot from the hip.
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Perry I filed off some metal reshaping frame around balls and top and milled out metal under trigger plate.Drilled holes under forend tang .Bobby
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The only thing that would have made that a better story is if you were hung over when you accomplished that feat. 3" drop, I might as well shoot from the hip. I bet if, over a week, you shot twenty rounds of low gun skeet with my 3" drop Parker 28ga you could do some good with it. Not saying it would be worthwhile to you, just that it is not that difficult to learn. You already know the lead, to watch only the bird, if you have any eye dominance problems you have them worked out, and you are very familiar with the SxS side site picture.
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Very strange, buncha guys strutting around talking up how good they shoot with a real little one. 
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Very strange, buncha guys strutting around talking up how good they shoot with a real little one. Outstanding!!!!!!! Thanks for my laugh of the day! Best, Greg
Gregory J. Westberg MSG, USA Ret
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The old British standard is the 96/1 rule. Or 96 oz of gun to 1 oz of lead. That equates to 7 1/2# for 1 1/4oz shot or 6# for 1 oz. Of course, today's soft recoil pads can up that a bit or an automatic should you be a heathen.
Of course, serious shooters can go higher. A friend and his wife are BOTH in the Trapshooter's Hall of Fame. He uses a Krieghoff which I imagine is 8-8 1/2# and uses 1 oz and 7/8oz for doubles. I imagine the 7/8 oz is for the first shot. Of course for the hundreds of rounds shot in a day, that is a good idea. He has over 600,000 rounds out of that one gun. He sends it in every two years to be rejuvinated.
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When I was in my 20s and 30s a 7 1/2lb 12ga 28" barreled Kreighoff 32 seemed light enough for me to carry all day and it swung quickly enough for Ruffs and Desert quail. Then I bought a 20ga Parker VHE which is just a little over 6lbs and hunted that ever since. One day after years with the Parker I took out the M32 and couldn't catchup with anything crossing. Felt like I was swinging a 4x4. I think the issue is really what you practice with enough. Most of my practice is on doves and quail. I have never hunted planted birds. Now I am 74 and I am not going to carry a gun heavier than that Parker, even for sporting clays which I shoot with a Rizzini 20ga which 6lb even and moves like a wand when I need it to.
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