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Not the tang sight, the brass looking screw on the rear barrel sight in picture #13.
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The same type of rear sight is on a percussion rifle I own, made in Liege, Belgium. A previous owner inscribed his name and the date 1849 on the inside of the wooden patch box cover. On my rifle, that particular elevation adjustment screw is made of steel. It is held in place only by a short distance of thread and looks like it easily could get lost. Your brass screw might be a later replacement.
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Thank you Fuhrman. I've not seen one before. There doesn't appear to be much adjustment there.
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 Oh, this little jewel. Seems I cannot count. Maybe there's enough adjustment there for a different bullet weight? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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No, there is not much room for adjustment, maybe a millimeter or a bit more. I think this is only for "fine tuning", the rough height adjustment has to be done beforehand using a file. I doubt there would be room for adjustment for significantly different bullets or loads. My feeling is the following: this sight looks quite "old-fashioned" for your rifle - it looks right for a muzzleloader, but your rifle was made sometimes between the 1890s and 1920s (BTW, you will be able to date it from the number of the Ferlach proof house which should be there). Maybe the owner of the rifle specified this rear sight type because be was used to it and did not care about switching loads. fuhrmann
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Given the proofs I saw, if that is all there is, it pre-dates the 1891 Austrian proof law. With that and the style of hammer and other features I believe it is 1880's. The Austrian state of Carinthia had a voluntary proof law from 1882...and I haven't quite figured out how a law can be voluntary but that's what the book says. Anyway, those marks are not evident on the rifle.
At any rate when the rifle arrives and I acquire brass we'll see how close the sights are to original type BP loads.
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It will be interesting to see what the gun will say once you can inspect it. I also feel the gun has an "old-fashioned" look, starting with the Jones underlever. But the 9,3x72R seems to be from the early 1890s, so that's why I started thinking from that date. Here is a good review on the 9,3 mm Express family: http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11997fuhrmann
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Very interesting thread Fuhrman, thanks for linking it.
As with all things firearm, approximates are easy, the details not so much. Causes for a bit of frustration at times, eh? The rifle will receive a thorough going over and I'll certainly post what I do and don't learn along with questions and the hope of some answers. I haven't been quite so anxious to receive a particular rifle in a long time as I am this one.
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sharps, I'd say the fun is in finding out the details, solving the little problems and getting the rifle to shoot again. Have done it with my own little 9.3: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=110287&an=0&page=1#Post110287Now your rifle appears to be in very good condition, good to go as it is - please be careful regarding the "going over"! fuhrmann
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Wow...while I don't usually care for anything Martini based, if indeed that one is, I do like that rifle. but then I am a sucker for full length stocks. Obviously it and the shooter get along quite well!!
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