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I have a Winchester 21 that has seen its share of field use. Skeet model 20ga, 2 barrel set (26" ws1/ws2, 30" f/f) and made in '46 or '47. The metal is all in good condition with normal bluing wear, but the finish on the stock needs some help. Since I am planning to sell it, should I leave it with all of its battle scars, or refinish it to make it pretty again? The kicker is that it has a short stock (13-5/8 LOP) and any potential buyer would probably restock it anyway, unless it was acquired with a smaller person in mind. 
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Hello,
Welcome to the site on your first posting.
I do now know if you will get your money back that you would spend on a refinish
Mike
USAF RET 1971-95
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If I were selling it I'd leave it as-is. If I were keeping it I might refinish it myself.
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A 20 gauge Model 21 with 30" barrels is 1 of about 175. I own a Tournament grade 20 gauge with 28" Skeet barrels and 30" magnums. A great set and pretty rare to boot. With only about 30,000 in all a refinished Model 21 is not as frowned upon as say a Parker would be. Too bad about the wood but a $3000 bill will remedy your stock situation. There's plenty of market out there for your most desirable 2 barrel set, in fact I know a guy...
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Thanks for all of the replies. I posted the question here as I have been reading this forum for a long while and respect the opinions of those around here.
I'm going to give it some serious thought...with the hopes I don't talk myself into another full restoration.
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That wood has some nice figure in it and it could look a whole lot nicer than it does with the old factory finish. And I'm not talking about the obvious scratches and scrapes.
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That's the problem with the Winchester Model 21, after you refinish it and take a look at it you may not want to sell it.
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I would like to see that stocks figuring after being treated with Alkanet, though not to every ones taste I know but I feel it would enhance the woods figure contrast then it is rather a Brit thing to like Alkanet.
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This product is great for a temporary upgrade of a stock finish just like you have to get it in good enough cosmetic shape to sell. Works great and highly recommend. Get the Dark Walnut. http://www.howardproducts.com/prod-restor-a-finish.phpJR
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Leave it alone and let the new owner make any changes as he sees fit. He may like it more the way it is than refinshed.
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Whatever you do the gun will be run down by a prospective buyer. Either the stock's dinged up and too short or you ruined it by refinishing it. I'd leave it as is and I'd rather buy it as is...Geo
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The stock and the forend both have a lot of figure to them. I'm hesitant to use any products on it unless I was going to strip and refinish completely.
Pics of the wood (at least with the equipment I have) just don't do it justice.
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I would like to see that stocks figuring after being treated with Alkanet, though not to every ones taste I know but I feel it would enhance the woods figure contrast then it is rather a Brit thing to like Alkanet. I don't know how alkanet works but it really makes figure like that pop. I have to think that it reacts with the tannins in the wood.
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You'll like the Restor-A-Finish, Raconteur. It will give the wood just enough pop to make it more attractive without refinishing. No prospective buyer will be turned off by it. Any good local hardware store sells it.
Just wipe it on with a soft cotton pad, remove any excess, and you're done. Used it plenty of times on old finishes that I didn't want to alter.
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What was the original finish on Model 21 stocks? Jim
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Proprietary varnish. What you see peeling off of Raconteur's stock. JR
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Some people might want it just the way it is. And anyone who buys that gun will be able to afford to redo it themselves, if that's what they choose. If you want to sell it, I'm guessing there are plenty of buyers for a nice gun like that, as is. I sure wouldn't discount it for some minor battle scars.
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