So some one else did attend that show. I was beginning to think I was the only non-vendor in the place. I asked about those 2. He told me the 4 bore weighs in at 22lbs and the 8 bore a mere 16lbs. Actually saw a decent Fox AE 12ga for a good price. Trouble was the seller won't stop talking on his cell phone to even answer a question. Finally get tired of waiting and walked away.

Not sure I would even have to fire that 4 bore to take an elephant. One look and the tusker would keel over with laughter at thought of me hauling that monster on a sled through the bush.

I checked "Cartridges of the World". The only 4" long shell he lists is a 4 bore.

Pete