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With modern shells, the Cyl choke works well for reasonable range bird hunting and clay work. Anything under 35 yards is well within range with a reasonable shell.
I have shot rabbits, pheasants, quail, ducks and geese as well as sporting/skeet with it. For a duck gun over decoys or a bird gun over dogs, there is nothing wrong with a Cyl choke in my book.
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Sidelock
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I had a 1934 (SN33XX) 12 ga 21 Tournament that was choked cyl/IC. The IC was not an overstamp. Chokes were .000 and .005.
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Ok, you guys twisted my arm!! I will give it a shot. Thanks!
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Sidelock
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I had a later 26" Skeet Grade (#17,781) choked as Sam's gun, cylinder and improved cylinder. It was a wonder gun but went away in trade for a Krupp barrel 8 gauge Lindner Daly. I would like to have the 21 back, but not enough to give up the eightbore.
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Sidelock
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I often shoot a M21 skeet with the usual Sk1 and Sk2 chokes. I love it for the usual sporting clays layout. The Winchester specification sheets for chokes show that Sk2 is supposed to be improved cylinder which is about 0.005" constriction but can be as much 0.009" depending on bore size. Mine is 0.011" which is about the top of their range for modified which is 0.008" to 0.012". In 12 gauge Sk1 was changed in 1963 to straight cylinder. Before that, there was a pinch in from the bore diameter about 2" from the muzzle by about 0.005". In the last two inches the bore flared out to about 0.020" over bore diameter. One book on the M21 indicates in a table that the probable reason was to give a hotter pattern center but about the same spread as a cylinder bore. Botton line. I think you will enjoy the cylinder/modified combination. Have fun!!
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My early 16g DT Model 21 with serial number 63XX is choked Mod and Full. The bores measure .007 and .027 respectively.
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I have a 12 gauge choked cyl/imp. cyl. It is a great bird gun. If you watch the Beretta Bird Hunters Journal show, all they shoot is 20 gauge Berettas with at least one barrel choked cylinder. Jack (what's his name) used to say that a cyl. choke would make you a cracker jack shot.
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