i have always used 7/8oz #8 for ruffed grouse, woodcock, and quail. if i am sure it will pretty much be just timber doodles or quail i would sometimes use 7/8oz #9. i have never hunted preserve pheasants

a guy who's experience i uber much respect told me he used and suggested i try RST falcon ultra lite 12b 3/4oz 1125fps #8 or $9 for all of the above.

if you would please tell me your experiences with similar loads i would really appreciate it.

thanks!

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