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Seems to me it'd be odd to use "détente" for anything but trigger, since that's its common usage as a French gun term. One French shotgun book I have ("Les Armes de Chasse a Canon Lisse", or "Smooth Bore Hunting Guns"), includes a list of common gun terms. For détente:
"Small, curved metal part that the finger pushes to fire the gun." No secondary usage given.
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I really don't think the back trigger is fake? The toplever stop seems to pivot unlike others I have seen.   Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Aha . . . Dijon. Must be an old usage, going back to the days of the Dukes of Burgundy, when those sleazy Burgundians were in league with the perfidious English.  Seriously . . . there's always a first time, but I've never seen "détente" used in reference to anything but triggers in "gun French".
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 Trademarks - Perfecta - April 26th, 1912 Gallia & Lorraine - June 11th, 1912 French Patents Nr. 21760 & Nr. 552254 Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey, which photos show the information in your most recent post, other than "Gallia"? I do agree that the top lever stop looks to be unique.
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My last post was to show the trademark Gallia on the subject sporting weapon & just move other trademark info on BF to DGS.
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 Ky Jon's Helice Elite BTÉ SGDG, BF in a rhombus on water-table, with Canon Gallia & Acier Force - Berthon Fréres(Chometon)   (Ml - BLOC) Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Have never seen "Force" following acier on a French gun previously, but then they seem to have used all sorts of adjectives to describe barrel steel. Also indicated as being of superior quality.
Raimey, is that a 2nd St Etienne proofmark I see on the barrels, far left of your photo? So, double proof (or maybe more)?
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 Brown: What's your take on the Ml Bloc & the Dog riding the Lion, Cat on a Horse or whatever it is?  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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