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Does anyone know who patent W.S.R. refers to? I acquired a 16 English hammer gun, back action, and stamped on the action flats is WSR Patent in a circle with 122 below. I looked to no avail in the books i have but could not locate who this refers to.
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John
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Possibly William Spinks Riley of The Eagle Gun Works, Vauxhall Street, Birmingham. Seems to have been a prolific inventor during the hammer gun era. Here are three snippets I found in The British Shotgun, 1850-1870. Oh, the number 122 is probably the use number. If you could post good closeup photos of the action and barrel lugs it would help.   
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Joe,
Many thanks for the information. I will post photos of the action and barrel flats. The second photo paragraph seems on the mark. The pins or strokers are spring loaded.
John
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John, as I understand it, the reference you make is not for a spring on the firing pin but rather a pin set on top of the barrel to indicate if the gun was loaded. Could be wrong though.
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Bob, that is an excellent link.......the trail grows warmer. Oh, beautiful gun!
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Joe and Bob,
Thanks for the link and photo. I will take some digital pics and post as soon as the semester is over. This gun does not have the same nipple/strikers as the that in Bob's pics. They may have been changed over the course of a century and the patent number on the barrel flats is number 122. Could this be for the lock up rather than the strikers. I saw a similar lock up on Vinatgeguns Uk web site, a back action with a protrusion on the rear lump or lug that extends under and into the breech face.
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Page 75 of the DGJ, Summer 2014 has some good pics and info on WSR .
Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 12/03/14 11:50 AM.
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As I understand it (and welcome correction) what one thinks is a patent number is often a license usage number issued by the patent holder. In this case 122 might be just such an instance.
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