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I have not personally seen one blow up. Never seen a plane crash either, but I believe they are real.
Until Drew or someone determines a way to non destructively test them achieving definitive results, I won't be shooting any. What everyone else chooses to do is their business, at least so far, and I wish you all well. I don't think Obama will get that far down the list in only two more years.

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I assume that you apply the same criteria to everything you do & therefore refuse to ever fly on an airplane or for that matter to ride in an automobile or ride a horse or walk or even to arise from bed, but then folks dye in bed so you can't stay there either. At the very least one should be consistent in their reasoning. You know folks even get choked & die while eating.
Bye, been nice knowing you. Have a "Safe Trip" to the hereafter. I don't think you have long left with all the risks you take on a daily basis.


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Play in the road long enough and you'll get run over...

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I am not an EXPERT on shotguns, or much else. My wife will gladly verify that opinion.

I have fired perhaps a thousand #8625 reloads through a Damascus barreled 12 ga. Remington 1900 and a 10 ga. laminate Baker -- with zero problems. Said handloads supposedly generated 6k to 7k psi.

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I do what I have to do in this life. I take risks, it's just that what I judge to be acceptable risks and what you judge them to be are different. I do not have to shoot Damascus barreled shotguns when I want to shoot a shotgun, so I don't. Look at the bright side, less competition for the guns. As I said, I wish you all who shoot them well, and I hope no one ever sees any kind of blow up. I saw a .270 blow up years ago and that was enough for me.

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I saw a .270 blow up years ago and that was enough for me.

I was unaware that any .270's had ever been barreled in Damascus, otherwise I fail to see the connection.
It is not that unusual to here of a modern gun Blowing Up while using approved factory loads.
Don't know about yourself, but I don't "Have" to shoot Period but I do choose to & assume you do also as you are a member here, again totally inconsistent with your reasoning.
I do have some Damascus/Twist barrels which I choose not to fire due to their condition but others which I have no qualms about using.
Among those I do not shoot is a lightweight 12ga hammer double with pre-1887 Birmingham black powder proofs. It is loose & off face & its bores resemble a sewer pipe. I keep it solely because it belonged to my Grandfather. Yet I am fully aware the man who had it before I got it (An Uncle) did use it. He was not a hunter but kept it on his farm for Varmint Control. It was not shot often but when it was it normally had a "High Brass" 2 3/4" 3 3/4DE-1ĽOZ-4 load in its short chamber. In spite of all that abuse it did not blow Up.
In answer to the original question i have yet to see or here of a shotgun barrel which has blown up purely "Because" it was made of Damascus or Twist steel. Far & away the most common cause of a blow up in a shotgun is a bore obstruction, followed by a drastic overload & finally by a flaw in the barrel itself. In regards to this final cause it is well worth noting that for many years it was far more common to find a "Seam" in a steel barrel which was contained inside the walls & therefore not detected. Most of these would fail proof but occasionally one would pass & then sometime later after continued use would Split upon firing a normal load. Due to the manner in which they were built these seams were simply unheard of in welded barrel construction.


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