It is really a shame to see the old timers disappear. I remember around 40 years ago I grew into shooting after practically memorizing Elmer Keith's "Sixguns By Keith". I have Jeff on tape (I watch a lot of TV, jOe) on Shooting USA from 2004 I believe. It was probably his last TV appearance that I know of. These guys sure made a lot of breakthroughs for so many people. God Bless them all.