Regarding giving up on making 6.5s out of 7mms, some times it's good for a man to know his limitations. This is a really nice tight gun and I'd like to hunt with it this fall instead of spending my time on case forming. For $16.50 a box, I ordered five boxes of factory S&B ammo and I'll shoot the 131 grain bullets and then load some 150 to 154 grainers and see which bullets shoot closer to the sights. I know that S&B brass isn't the best, but 100 rounds will last a long time when shot as sparingly as I do a drilling.