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Duckboats, decoys and double barrels...
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Beautiful craftsmanship and two very nice guns. I have a 12 in what looks to be the same grade as these. They may not be WRs as such but these early H&Rs were and are some of the more finely crafted guns of the era.
Should we think about a collectors association? It might be nice to put together photos and details of those H&Rs still around.
Good shooting.
John
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Beautiful guns, as nice as any ever made in the US, IMO.
Gorgeous wood and craftsmanship, as well.
Is the wood Claro or Bastogne? Where did you find it?
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At probably less than 3000 guns made ( 50/50 12,10 gauge?), not a lot of guns out there for collectors....
Looks to be Claro originally from Wrights near Portland- closed now I think. I bought the quarter sawn stump fletch ~ 2000 & it was 7 yrs old then.
I was thinking of an upgrade on the engraving , but I don't know anyone to emulate the old Loy style seen on the high grade Remington's , Lefevers and H&Rs..can anyone suggest an engraver that could spot on duplicate that style?
Best regards,
JBP
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What grade are these H&R's?
Back in my doublegun infancy, I was at an OGCA gunshow and saw an H&R A Grade. First off, I didn't even know H&R had made doubles... they weren't listed in my Blue Book. Second, it had those dangerous Damascus barrels which were supposed to be unsafe to shoot. Why would I pay $450.00 for a wallhanger?
The seller told me that he had been the historian for Harrington & Richardson. I remember that both the engraving and Damascus were as breathtaking as anything I have seen since. Needless to say, this is one of the guns I most regret not buying.
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 Oddly enough, this same advertiser used number grades 1-4, or similar, just a few years later. This if from Shoverling , Daly, and Gales.
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H&Rs are some fine guns. I have let a couple get away from me over the years, but never again. This is one nice pair.
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Interesting copy in the first two lines of that ad - machine made guns are clearly preferable to those hand-crafted tomato stakes!
I heard an interesting story about H&R this morning. The Rowe family apparently acquired the company because Ted Rowe was serving as corporate counsel and they could only pay him with stock. After awhile, he had acquired enough stock to take control of the company.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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Beautiful set J.B. I think you emailed me some pictures of these in 2009 or 2010. I'm glad you were able to finish them up properly. Doug did a great job like always.
While working for a shop in college we had an A grade come in for restoration. I wanted to buy it but couldn't work out a deal. I don't know about the lower grade guns but this A grade was extremely robust and well built. All of the internal parts were highly polished and fit precisely. Ever since then I have always enjoyed seeing H&R doubles, especially high condition or properly restored examples.
Other then the A grade I worked on the only other high grade H&R double I have seen was a B grade offered for sale by Monty Whitley. Every once in a while a beat up C or D grade will show up on the auction sites.
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Documented lethality of old # 1105 ! Good day on the marsh today with one of the H&R brothers....  Nice to see the cold weather bring down the big ducks! Best Regards, JBP
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