A friend was discussing the fact that the Model 12 will fire if the trigger is held back when the action is worked (which we always called "slam firing")and he asked if "the old Rem Model 17 pump, bottom ejection,20-ga only, discontinued 1933" will as well. I don't know why he wants to know, but figured somebody here would. Thanks...


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