The last two years, all of my dove hunting has been with a SxS 14ga. ml'er. I sometimes have taken the flint 20ga. SxS out, but it is usually the 14ga. No, I can't shoot as fast as the breech loaders, but I am not terribly far behind them. It is just a matter of everything in the right place. My percentage of made shot is as good or better than the breech loaders. I think it has a lot to do with the cyl. bores and I did spend a fair amount of time at the patterning board. I personally prefer the English head, but I guess that is what I am used to. I use a turkey hunting vest as my shooting coat and all the pockets allow me to have everything at hand in a hurry. My rammer is kept is a tube tied to my belt.