Originally Posted By: Chuck H
"... but you really have to have drunk the kool-aid to believe that the dems care one iota more." There are plenty of Demos that are just numb enough between the ears that I believe they've already had their serving.


Chuck, men can have differing opinions without having to have drunk "the kool-aid." That's a very simplistic world view I'm surprised to see you espouse. I could very, very easily make the same claim from my vantage point, but I choose not to.

For the sake of discussion, let me posit this: As an ex-Republican Democrat (maybe I'm a Democratican), I believe in the strongest possible way that we shouldn't give up ANY of our civil liberties in fighting terrorism. I'm willing to live with any supposed risks to maintain a free society, because I feel we've lost if we give in to erosion of our Constitutionally-granted civil liberties, which has already been happening to my great chagrin. If the same analogy can be drawn to gun control, that we must not have ANY infringement of our rights under any circumstances (a view many here seem to espouse), I would have more respect for the principles of that view IF, and I stress IF, Republicans would take the same stand with regards to our civil liberties, which unfortunately they have not. In fact, they have been more than willing to discard them (habeus corpus, 4th Amendment rights, etc.). Could someone explain to me why 2nd Amendment rights are the only ones Republicans seem to be concerned about?


Imagination is everything. - Einstein