Ken,
further update, I used the 10-12 gaugemates in the Ithaca NID this afternoon for a stint of dove hunting

They worked quite well. I really had to work to get the spent hulls out and inserts put back in and the chambers loaded for the next set of targets.

Sure would be easier if I could find a second pair, but the gun is usable with this present pair.
Thank you again
Mike
p.s. 15 mourning doves and 4 collared doves was my take this afternoon.
p.s.s. sorry for the signature above and below but the above post is older and I can
not edit it. I usually only use one signature per post