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#3781 10/03/06 12:20 PM
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Thanks Jim.

And to the specific original question...

I'd go with a 2-7 Leupold. I bought a VXI, for around $200. Looking back, I wish I'd have bought the same in a VXII or VXII. I personally like the variables. To target shoot you can crank it way up, and to just glass chipmunks or small game, the 2x works nicely for me.

But if you were to go with a fixed, a 4x is the ticket.

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I believe the best application for a Tasco,Simmons,Cabelas, et al scope is.......the table at a gun show.

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I'd be interested in what your rifles are, that are graced with such clear glass?
I've had a wheelbarrel full, and there are some, that great glass and target ammo couldn't cure.
Its all in the rifle, or not!

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Not getting into this 59$ scope business but I had a brand new Leupold VX-II variable and I'll swear on a stack of Holy Writ that I couldn't get it to sharp resolution. Drove me crazy. Sold it and got a couple of Nikon Buckmaster AOs at the model change and have been as happy as one can be made by a scope.

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to Thornly tweed: I don't know why you'd care, since you don't know the difference, but I have an Anschutz 1717D Meister Grade with a Leupold(that's "loo-poled", not "lee-uh-poled", for folks in Rio Linda) 6.5-20 EFR., an Oregon Kimber M82, that wears Leupold 3-9 EFR and a Remington M700 Varmint .222, with a Leupold 6.5-20 standard knobs. I can only suspect that anyone who thinks a $39 scope is equal to a $500 scope has never looked through or owned a good one. I have a new Anschutz 17 P pistol and a Bushnell 3200 Elite 2-6x 32 ordered for it. A couple years ago I tried a Weaver Grand Slam(about $300+) with a lot of good features, on the .222. Unfortunately it was not clear past about 100 yards. Sold it and got a Leupold. You do get what you pay for. Whether or not you can see the difference is your problem. JL


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I can't find a US source for the 4x Meopta - that would keep it in the family.


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I've had my share of Leupolds - nice optics, but have had luck with the cheapie Cabela's on my Kimber, so it'll stay for this year.
So yes there is a difference, but at 50 yards, I can thread a needle with this rifle.
What more can I say, want more do you want?

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Its all in the rifle, or not! [/QB]
If you want to think that, ok. I think that's BS.

Out at my range all the fellas are dusting off the deer guns getting ready for the big hunt here in a month. Funny how many guys out there who have the same guns I do "just won't shoot". I was talking with a guy last month who just couldn't get his varmint gun to get better than 1 1/2" at 100. Poor sucker was tinkering with powder charges, OAL and the whole mess to get the dang thing to shoot. He'd have saved money in the long run getting a nice piece of glass on there. Then to get some of these guys to hit anything better than a paper plate is quite the feat.

I must be a lucky guy, because ALL my Remington 700 varmint guns will shoot 1/2 MOA at 300 all day long. And ALL my sporters will shoot at least 3/4 at 100. And my goodness a Marlin 336 under 1"? Over and over.

I borrowed a friends Sightron which is supposed to be a decent scope. Hated it, and "the gun" wouldn't group. Amazing when a better piece of glass went on there what happened to the groups.

I can tell you those Bushnell Banners are decent scopes for their price, but as soon as dusk hits or you are in some shadows, you will want a better scope. If you shoot when the sun is shining out in open fields, you may be ok. If you want to buy a $30 scope and put it on an $1800 gun, so be it. You can probably get away with it because you are such an exceptional shot.

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Lowell is correct, in my opinion. We're talking about plinking .22s. I hunt with kids around here who make only headshots as I do at the usual distances for squirrel and rabbits---without scopes. Everyone here owns tackdrivers for serious hunting. Hanging big-money on rimfire glass for squirrels and rabbits is not from necessity. It provides no advantage, no edge over those who do not.

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I have found the Leupolds to be an excellent value on my rifles. Virtually all of my rifles have them on as well. I do keep a few Tascos, Simmons, etc. around though as well. These are the scopes that go on the guns if I were to sell them. Good optics, I just don't sell.

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