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No Ed,

I don't need to "respect their fears" when it comes to my individual freedom and liberty. By that logic, if someone "fears" a person or that person's behavior they could be declared a criminal. That's what statist religious demonization is all about. You morally demonize first, that leads to dehumanization, and then you can willfully oppress them. You'd better believe that the average German had some level of "fear" about the Jews. Soon they were "Rattenvolk" and fit for extermination. The same thing happened in the Soviet Union, and the democrats are attempting the same thing here. Now, those believing in individual freedom and equality are Racists, Bigots, Sexists, and Homophobes. Merely the first step in the process.

Ken, we've demonized Muslims in North America, unfairly in my opinion, mostly as a result of the 9/11 terrorist attack. Muslims have been part of America since transported from Africa as slaves and, according to some members, one now resides in the White House. Is this another example of statist religious demonization?

Nope..since Muslims are responsible for most of the worlds terrorism.

Not to mention their campaign of terror anywhere they grow commanding everyone to convert or die.

If all the Muslims every dropped dead tomorrow...the world would be a significantly more peaceful place for everyone else.

It's amazing how long this topic has lasted. Correctly identifying the philosophical basis for a faith-based belief is not demonization. Not all Muslims believe in Islamic Fundamentalism, which, is sociopathic in nature as it forcibly inflicts it's dogma on non-believers at the expense of their individual freedom and liberty. That is the distinction. Any Muslim is free to believe in it, it is crossing the line to unconstitutional infliction that is the point. Identifying that aspect of the ideology, the most extreme form being the commission of violence against those who do not hold your beliefs is rightly identified and is not demonization.

This topic has been debated on this board since the 1990's, especially after the time of the first World Trade Center truck bombing. Back then I was an active poster and the board was called "Gunshop.com". In fact, the topic was so hot it was taking over the board, and I take humble credit to be the first one to suggest to Dave that a separate forum be established to discuss political issues. I had done quite a bit of research on Islamic Fundamentalism back in the 1980's, I had written one fairly extensive paper detailing the belief as clearly one of the most volatile forces active in the world, and that it would only continue to grow stronger.

Individual religious belief in America is protected under the "Free Expression" clause of the Constitution. When it crosses the line and becomes sociopathically inflictive as a determining philosophy of the government, it violates the "Establishment" clause. And yes, Islamic Fundamentalism is another form of Religious Statism.

I contacted Dave to see if I could retrieve my username from the 1990's, but evidently all the data of the old board is on a different format and is not easily retrievable. I believe I was called "RngrKen", or "RangerKen" or some similar name. That was back in the days (as I remember) when folks like Oscar Gaddy and others were still posting, and I was able to start accumulating knowledge that I am fully using today.

Many Americans do not feel comfortable with groups they're unfamiliar with. At another forum where I spend most of my net time there are many alarms by people claiming he came to my door, but "he was not from this neighborhood", "he did not belong here". The same holds for Muslims. Most that do not like them probably never met one.

That's a common cultural characteristic. I've lived in a close-knit farming community for over ten years. Yet, whenever I walk into a bar, everyone still looks at me like I'm a "stranger in town", because I'm not a member of one of the six or seven dominant families in the area.

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I started this thread based on my opinion that King Brown has, at least for the last year-and-a-half, been an anti-gun troll operating as a gun guy on a Double Gun forum. I posted direct quotes from King that I feel support this notion.

However, the discussion has been dominated for the last several pages by ed, who is simply dense and stupid beyond belief.

ed, you keep asking who I am. You ask if I am ISIS? What the hell is that supposed to mean? If I post my full name, address, e-mail, phone number, and GPS coordinates... what difference will it make?

You keep bringing up the NFA of 1934. We have discussed that at length in other threads. It strictly regulates certain weapons, but it also permits law abiding citizens to pay a tax, pass a backround check, and own and shoot full-automatic weapons. So what? I know a guy who had a fully functional Japanese anti-aircraft gun and ammunition in his garage. He lived close to an International Airport, but he never shot down a 747. He was not a criminal, so he was not a problem. Some people may fear that just as some people fear semi-automatics or even revolvers and single shot .22s. I fear what Libtards are doing to this country. Can we ban them, deport them, or imprison them because I fear their actions? They really are a problem. They kill unborn babies and parole violent criminals. They take my hard earned money in ever higher taxes, and redistribute it to lazy people. They spend money we don't have. And they permit illegal aliens to violate federal law without repercussions. They break a lot more laws than 99.9% of gun owners. Can we take away their liberties ed?


Just last week, you were endorsing going back to a time when the borders of the U.S. were wide open with no immigration policy. I asked you if you were suggesting that we go back to a time of no nation and no laws, which of course would include your precious NFA of 1934. You gave no answer. You see a problem with law abiding gun owners who own and shoot certain guns that you don't like and that some people fear, yet you see no problem with millions of people breaking the law, crossing illegally into our country, stealing work, evading taxes, stealing goods and services from taxpayers, etc. How stupid can you get?

You constantly remind us that you read books. You ask us if we read. Yet you cannot read with comprehension. You are wasting your time reading. You are functionally illiterate. You do not understand what you read. You are a total dumb-ass.

Jim, Mike, myself, and others have taken the time to provide references to the writings of the Founders. There are The Federalist Papers, contemporary editorials, letters, personal correspondance, and books written by the Founders that explain what their intent was when they wrote the Constitution and the Amendments...including the Second Amendment. This is what Constitutional scholars use to interpret original intent. This is what Supreme Court Justices are SUPPOSED to use to interpret original intent. You and King and Leftist Liberal Judges who legislate from the bench totally ignore and/or subvert the original intent and look for twisted meanings and loopholes to support your own personal biases and agendas. This is a violation of a sworn oath taken by judges, and both ignorant and dishonest on the part of you and King.

I almost always agree with Mike. He thinks you are baiting and trolling us. I respectfully disagree. I think you are too dumb to do that. You act like an autistic child.

You lecture us about keeping your threads on topic. Either get back on topic or start your own idiotic thread about the NFA of 1934 and your own anti-gun behavior. This thread is about the anti-gun/anti-Second Amendment/ anti-NRA activities of another anti-gun troll.

I support NRA and NRA-PVF. I do not think Kingsley Brown is antigun. Doesn't he own one of those automatic Stren guns? Most anti-gun folks are deathly afraid of those contraptions. Ed seems to support notion of reaching out to moderates who are fearful of guns. That is not a bad idea. The virulent anti-gun people like "Mas' Demanding Action" aren't worth engaging.

Jagermeister, did you read the anti-gun words from King Brown yesterday? Did you see him quoting the anti-Second Amendment words of ex-SCOTUS Justice Warren Burger? Have you seen him suggesting that gun owners make concessions to the anti-gunners? Have you read his words where he frequently criticizes the very successful tactics of the NRA? Did you ever see the bloviating braggart tell us of even one thing he has done to prevent or reverse anti-gun laws in his own country?

King says he once owned a Sten... not Stren gun, but got rid of it when the gun laws in Canada became too strict. King says a lot of things that are pure bullshit. Obama says he shoots skeet, and Kerry says he deer hunts by crawling on his belly with his trusty 12 ga. double barrel shotgun. King has lied to us way too often for me to believe much of anything he says. And there are plenty of vehement anti-gunners who want to outlaw our guns while they either have their own, or utilize armed bodyguards, like Mayor Bloomberg and George Soros.

Did you happen to see how King dishonestly starined logic and truth to find a loophole in the Oath of Office which allows him to not uphold the law... his own words from post # 371140:



ed is just a simpleton. He could read the whole Library of Congress and not understand a thing. He appears to be mentally ill as well. If you think we should cave to "moderates" who fear guns, we might as well just give them all up now. There is no middle ground with them, and you should start by torch cutting the receiver of your new AKM and smashing your 30 round magazines. You say it's not a bad idea to reach out to them, so do it. Give up what your so-called "moderates" fear and don't like. Show us you mean what you say. Or are you just talking through your a$$ again?

You don't make a lot of sense either most of the time.