Jack, your example that members of Congress listen to "other groups with a pro-gun agenda" is a good one . . . except, in spite of repeated attempts on my part to get you to give a SPECIFIC example of that, in the case of the IWLA--like maybe Ikes lobbyists meeting with an individual member, or group of members, to discuss gun rights--you keep coming up empty. I may be part of the choir, but I'm in the sanctuary with the rest of the congregation--and I'll be darned if I hear the Ikes singing any gun rights hymns.