I shoot Eley, VIP, bismuth loads, and they are perhaps the best non toxic bismuth load I have ever used, at 32 grams and 67mm these no. 4's (No. 5 US) are my waterfowl load of choice (along with RST Nice Shot). Cosmetically, they are the best looking shell on the market. It is marked clearly on the box that they are made in Great Britain and at $60.00 per box of 25, they are competitively priced.