Keith, I'm not kidding about being out of gas, tired of repeatedly going back over these posts to parse meaning and make points.

Finally though, we disagree. From the outset, Caleb brought up race in the context of political talk; I don't read what he said later as dishonest at all. His point was behavioral, not political, and I think that was his meaning.

I know Caleb a little from other shotgunning boards where he's a more frequent poster. We've exchanged some pms about similar projects we did with 16 ga. M-31Ls. He's a good man Keith, and you won't cajole me into agreement on underclothing.

Jay