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Big muscle and big brand recognition and lots of money does not provide proportional influence at crunch time i.e. current presidential candidates and Howard Dean last time. Sometimes thunder is a negative polarizing influence.

The National Firearms Association has played a significant role in Canada. It has the minority Conservative federal government on side to get rid of the long-gun registry. Its politically astute messages are gaining support.

I don't know any NFA member who thinks job-done is sending a cheque. Missionary work is the same as any other proseltyzing: being trustworthy with a reasoned and balanced message, something others may believe in.

I will go so far as to say that generally that is a distinguishing feature of our board. There's no unanimity here because there is no unanimity in anything. We have strong opinions and learn from each other. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here.

I give up, Jack. You're right and everyone else is wrong. When President Hitlery and her ilk come to take your guns away just tell them they can't do that because you belong to the Isaak Walton League, AARP, and the President's Club at Camping World. You sure showed that old NRA, though. Do you still have the bumper sticker on your car that says "Don't blame me, I voted for Ross Perot"?
I'm not knocking the IWL. They are a fine organization, I'm sure. They are not, however, a substitute for the NRA.

Jack, you're dodging the question I asked you. I can read Pheasants Forever magazine, and I will find that PF is testifying before Congress in support of a stronger conservation title in the Farm Bill. I know the Ikes are a respected organization, and they're certainly pro-gun, but can you show me where they've done any lobbying in opposition to gun control legislation, or where they've done any lobbying in support of (for example) lifting the "assault weapons" ban? If they're doing much in the gun rights debate, they certainly do a poor job of communicating those actions to their membership. Wonder if the issue of gun rights will even come up at their forthcoming national convention?

And I just leafed through the most current issue of Outdoor America. Lots of stuff in there about conservation--which is great--but not a word about gun rights. If you're looking for the Ikes to fight that battle for you, Jack, you've picked the wrong horse in the race.

L Brown:
And perhaps you should go back and read my last post on this inane platform particularly Item 7. As far as the gun grabbers are concerned anyhing that resembles an assault weapon should be banned. Assault Weapons are SELECT FIRE(FULL AUTO) weapons a point that apparentely is lost on your group. A look alike semi-auto AK47 is NOT an assault weapon and is really no different from a Remington Woodsman,which is a common semi-auto hunting rifle, in function.
If you buy into this divide and conqour approach we'll all lose. Again the gun grabers want to restrict our access to certain firearms,then make firearms registration mandatory with the ultimate goal of confiscation.
Jim

As an illegal alien I was a Junior Member of NRA. I rejoined couple of years ago as a US citizen.
Next time I stroll through the museum and gift shot I will get life membership. I want to do it in person, so they can spell my last name correctly!

The reason Canada's death rate from use of firearms is so much less then in US is that Canadians don't live in state of perpetual terror ie they're not afraid of fellow Canadians.
We're constantly bombarded by bad news, and there are stupid codes: yellow, orange, red, green,....., are we Americans f...... "Clockwork Orange" society? We seem to be divided by our fears.

King, you getting the hang on how the American liberal press works. Your making the far-out stretch with flash-in-the-pan Howard Dean, and a long standing NRA.
A job with the New York Times perhaps?

Please read my posts. I invite you - challenge you, Jim - to find any place where I "attack" the NRA.

In fact, that's my point: attacking active national pro-gun organizations by calling them "wannabes" and "johnny-come-latelys" trying to "cash in" on the gun issue is divisive and against the best interests of all gun owners.

What purpose do you think attacking other gun organizations serves? If we fight amongst ourselves, only the antis win.

For anyone who thinks that writing a check to the NRA is "the only way" to fight for the RKBA: even at minimum wage, your money won't pay for the hours of training, preparation and face time it takes to get a church basement full of kids certified for firearm safety. The ink on your check won't do as much as letters and phone calls to your representatives. The time you spend writing it doesn't compare with time spent in tedious legislative committee hearings, waiting to speak your piece.

There are a lot of ways to work for the protection of the Second Amendment - take your choice. But don't knock the choices of others.

I purchased a life membership for myself, and for my son when he was rather young. He is now a practicing attorney, and although is not an avid shooter and gun enthueist as I, he is definetly pro gun( better be)

Unfortunately after paying for all that education, I do not have as much to donate to NRA as I would like, while trying to rebuild my retirement.

Jim, I'm not sure why you're responding to me. Having spent 30 years in the military (mostly Reserve) and having retired as a COL . . . yes, I think I know what an assault rifle is. That's why I put "assault weapon" in quotation marks. At one point, I was the "custodian" of about 30 AK's, ran AK ranges, etc. What "group" do you think I belong to, anyhow?

Jack, it's all well and good to teach kids firearms safety. I do that too, and I point out to them that hunters are but a small segment of the population--and that there are people out there who threaten our right to hunt. But as part of the hunter ed course, we don't stress the fact that there are also nuts out there who would like to take away our gun rights. Or at least that's not in the material we're provided as hunter ed instructors.

I'm still waiting to hear what the Ikes--as an organization--are doing on gun rights issues, politically, at either the state or national level.