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2 3/4" chambers, no "step" where the fretted barrels mate with the chambers . . . appears to be one of the later Robusts. Agree that $650 is a good buy for one of those in good shape.
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Agreed Larry, this is a late gun.
It has almost never been fired as witnessed by the breech face.
These guns are very , well, robust... and will last a life time.
$650 is a good price in that shape. I would use it any time, especially in bad weather.
The "Robust" was the utilitarian grade and was used by farmers on a quasi daily basis.
The treatment is indeed cyanide, and not charcoal case color.
Best regards,
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Im surprised neither Larry or Wild Cattle didnt point this out but brevete is French for patent and not part of the guns name. The same may go for the word fusil which I believe translates to mean shotgun or musket. Probably what is correct is to refer to the gun as a Manufrance Robust, but being nothing more than a non-French speaker who has a weakness for French shotguns I may be wrong.
Steve
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There isn't much you could buy for $650 that would be comparable to that. If I shot that gun very well, I could get used to those "hideous" colors very quickly, especially if it was a 16 or 20 gauge.
Best,
Ted Amen to that!!! Unless there is something unseen that is a heck of a buy and I would jump on it like a duck on a june bug.
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Hi Rockdoc,
This mistake is so common that I kind of gave up.
"Brevete" means patented, and it actually says "Brevete dans tous les pays" e.g. "Patented in all countries", which was likely to be a lie.
Manufrance is actually a newer trade name (1911) for the company f.k.a. "Manufacture francaise d'armes et cycles de St Etienne". The "et cycles" (and bicycles) was itself added in 1901 after the success of the "Hirondelle" ("swallow") bicycle.
So unlike the "Ideal" which could have been sold under the old name, the Robust which was introduced in 1913, as always been a "Manufrance" product.
The exception would be for its alter ego, the "Costo" which was marketed in the 30's under a different operation, but which was basically identical to the "Robust". (Costaud is a different word for Robuste).
The Robust was the workhorse of the French farmer, was incredibly strong and handled well. The later guns have chrome plated bores, which was not such a great idea, making the barrel rework quasi impossible.
Ejectors are quite rare.
Most of them were actually built in 16 Ga, especially pre war.
I have never heard of a 20Ga one.
Best regards,
WC-
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 I think cyanide colors can be done very tastefully. This is my Hunter Arms Hunter Special 12 gauge.
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Hi Rockdoc,
This mistake is so common that I kind of gave up.
"Brevete" means patented, and it actually says "Brevete dans tous les pays" e.g. "Patented in all countries", which was likely to be a lie.
Manufrance is actually a newer trade name (1911) for the company f.k.a. "Manufacture francaise d'armes et cycles de St Etienne". The "et cycles" (and bicycles) was itself added in 1901 after the success of the "Hirondelle" ("swallow") bicycle.
So unlike the "Ideal" which could have been sold under the old name, the Robust which was introduced in 1913, as always been a "Manufrance" product.
The exception would be for its alter ego, the "Costo" which was marketed in the 30's under a different operation, but which was basically identical to the "Robust". (Costaud is a different word for Robuste).
The Robust was the workhorse of the French farmer, was incredibly strong and handled well. The later guns have chrome plated bores, which was not such a great idea, making the barrel rework quasi impossible.
Ejectors are quite rare.
Most of them were actually built in 16 Ga, especially pre war.
I have never heard of a 20Ga one.
Best regards,
WC- Actually, in this case, after "brevete" you find the initials S.G.D.G.: Sans garantie du gouvernement. Means that the gun is indeed patented, but that does not imply a govt guarantee as to quality. Very common formula.
Last edited by L. Brown; 04/27/14 05:54 PM.
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Cyanide colours on one of mine. 
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Those colors (picture number one) are similar to early MX8 (and other) Perazzi's.
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Stevens doubles were cyanide colored in a similar pattern. One writer claimed the rows of colors were masde by dipping it into the bubbling quench water slowly, stopping for a bit every 1/2".
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