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Flintfan, I suspect Redman can help you. Failing that, if you look in the back of "Rifle"magazine, in the adverts.,you should find a couple outfits that can do this work.A 38 S&W Special barrel could be "short chambered" to .360#5, or a .312-.313" barrel could be chambered to 32 S&W long,for a good version of .320. Mike
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Rhys95,
You must remember that on double rifles each barrel was bored rifled and chambered before the barrels were joined and regulated. What you are proposing may be possible but it will require an enormous amount of luck to get both barrels to shoot anywhere near the same point of aim.
Soldering in liners may also be detrimental in that you could loosen the ribs and perhaps even the barrels. Epoxy would be the best way of fixing them in place. Drilling and Reaming out the original barrels is no job for an amateur as they diverge and would require extensive setting up operations for a machinist to do the work. Having it done by a gunsmith would not be cheap. Sorry to put up a raincloud over your idea, but it isn't at all an easy job for anyone to do.
I'd go along with the suggestions of Lagopus (above). Relining the barrels would devalue the rifle and cost you a lot to do it. It's simply not worth it. Finally Rook and Rabbit rifles were all low powered, and therefore low velocity. When rook shooting the young birds (called 'Branchers') were shot off the tree branches upwards of 80-120 feet off the ground a miss would result in the bullet slowing down rapidly and reducing potential injury to people and livestock in the vicinity, A lot of this shooting was done in village churchyards where Rooks frequently nested, so it was a potentially dangerous form of shooting.
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Last edited by Harry Eales; 04/12/14 06:44 AM.
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how about having the barrels laped and clean up the rifling then work a load with cast lead bullets that can be sized to the proper size. the gun at best is for shots inside 100 meters. I done this on a sauer 1893 back action hammer sxs rifle and the results where excellent. it would be a shame to alter that little rook gun in any fashion. a lot of us would love to have such a gun.
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It may be worth your while to source a book called The Classic British Rook & Rabbit Rifle by Colin Greenwood written in 2006. ISBN-10 1 86126 880 7 or ISBN-13 978 1 86126 880 8 It has lots of information and details regarding loading. Lagopus.....
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Rhys95 Brian Bateman is a consummate craftsman that specialises in relining rook rifles. He can be contacted at: 63 Price Street, Birmingham B4 6JZ Tel 0121 359 1680
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You may try Jim at Delta Gun Shop. He can reline and possible recut the rifling. I'd reline at last resort and 0.366" (9.3mm) liners are available. I relined a H&H rook rifle a few years ago as it was bored out to .410. I returned it back to .360 No.5 - are you sure this 380 is not a .360 No. 5? many times this designation is interchangeable, but really the same. A 38 long colt is about 1/16" longer than a 360 No.5 (or 380), other than that identical. Paper Patch a .358 Lyman bullet (2 wraps = 0.366") over 13gr. of 2F BP or 3-4gr Unique for a smokeless load. Keep us posted.
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I haven't actually seen the gun In person but the caliber has been measured at .380 with no specific cartridge mentioned. Now knowing the complexity of relining a double rifle I don't think I would bother bidding if the bores weren't in usable condition. There's a Hollis rook rifle on a martini action that Ill have a look at also which would be perfect for relining job.
I will report back after the inspection
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Rhys95, If you are "bound and determined" to reline one, the Hollis martini would be much easier,cheaper, and would't mess up a good double. Mike
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I fully agree with the last comment. It would also be a more accurate proposition. Don't discount the double if it comes cheap enough though as they are very scarce. Lagopus.....
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