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Maybe you're onto something, Mountain Mike. You don't have to look far for a one-party system not more repressive from what some members say they're living under now. Castro's dictatorship may be an improvement particularly in healthcare and education outcomes which compare favourably and are superior in many categories to those of the United States. From the New England Journal of Medicine:

"This highly structured, prevention-oriented system has produced positive results. Vaccination rates in Cuba are among the highest in the world. The life expectancy of 78 years from birth is virtually identical to that in the United States. The infant mortality rate in Cuba has fallen from more than 80 per 1000 live births in the 1950s to less than 5 per 1000 � lower than the U.S. rate, although the maternal mortality rate remains well above those in developed countries and is in the middle of the range for Caribbean countries.3,4 Without doubt, the improved health outcomes are largely the result of improvements in nutrition and education, which address the social determinants of health. Cuba's literacy rate is 99%, and health education is part of the mandatory school curriculum. A recent national program to promote acceptance of men who have sex with men was designed in part to reduce rates of sexually transmitted disease and improve acceptance of and adherence to treatment. Cigarettes can no longer be obtained with monthly ration cards, and smoking rates have decreased, though local health teams say it remains difficult to get smokers to quit. Contraception is free and strongly encouraged. Abortion is legal but is seen as a failure of prevention."

From what I read from some members, the United States is a sort of benign dictatorship without Cuba's benefits from universal healthcare and education, eh?

We know that dictators always tell the truth. We know that the newspapers in tyrant-ruled countries are accurate. We know that the numbers put out by the dictator's bureau of statistics are always accurate and truthful.

There was once a great famine in communist Russia. Yet every crop report, from the local apparatchik to the regional bureaucrat to the area commissar to the yes-men reporting directly to Stalin reported that everywhere in the entire nation the wheat crops made "plan".

The trouble with the 2nd Amendment threads in the main section is that they always turn out this way. Dave Weber polices the Second Amendment thread at the top of this index but not threads in this section. I wish Brian had made his excellent post on the Second Amendment thread or down in the Mis-Fires section. I found the case of the citizen in Washinton DC convicted for possession of the lead projectiles for muzzle loaders particularly disturbing. The same police chief and same district attorney decided not to prosecute a famous lefty "newsman" for possession of a thirty round clip because the prosecution "would not serve the interests of justice."

Journalism is by definition, a liberal art. Hard to counter liberalism with facts. No matter how many times something fails, they remain absolutely convinced of the righteousness of their creed. And it's not just guns; look at how well the criminal justice system is at preventing recidivism. Even their beloved psychologists will admit that negative reinforcement is a proven demotivator where people are concerned, they just can't feel good about being mean to murderers and rapists.
I am afraid Ron White nailed it. You can't fix stupid.

King,
Google "States with a constitutional right to hunt" and, don't be too surprised that NY and Connecticut are missing from that list. Remember, that NY gave the rest of the US the "gift" of senator Hillary Clinton,and that a locality gets exactly the government it deserves. At the point the state you live in can't get a constitutional right to hunt passed (New York state, for example) it is time to move along, if that is what is important to you.
There exist states, even states under liberal government, that wouldn't have anything like the SAFE act passed-it has been speculated that there are more deer rifles in the northern third of Minnesota than people. Those union mine workers up there vote democrat until the second amendment gets challenged-remember Warren Spannaus? Locally, we also had to suffer another "gift" from NY, Tony Bouza. Both ended up on the wrong side of the gun issue, in a liberal state.
Moving works just fine. My Dad left New Jersey almost 60 years ago for the same reason. Sturm, Ruger and company have put Connecticut on notice in the same fashion.

Best,
Ted

Thanks, Ted. Agree: no one should have to wait beyond their lifetimes for people to come to their senses or something good to happen.

Well said, and it's so unfortunate and just plain sad that you are correct in every way.