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Hi all, I was recently reading an article by the late Michael McIntosh in which he states that choke is pretty much obsolete due to modern shotshell performance.
So....do you agree or disagree with what he has to say?
Anyone pattern a cylinder bore and what were your results?
Thanks!
Greg
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I think ultra tight chokes are obsolete....I am breaking some long range targets with .020.....
Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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Ken, what makes you think in your case the choke has anything to do with it?
David
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David,
Authoritative breaks at extended distances are proof enough for me. Cylinder past 60 yards has not proven to be too efficient (for me) YMMV....
Thanks,
Ken
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Far too many years of shooting NSSA Skeet has made a 35 yard shot at a Pheasant seem incredibly long to me!! I shot a lot of NSSA registered Skeet with 12- and 20-gauge Model 12s that started life as Field Grades on which I had the barrels whacked to 26-inches and Simmons ribs installed. I posted enough 100 straights with those two guns to know that choke certainly isn't needed at Skeet ranges with plastic shot cup shells.
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McIntosh was wrong. All depends on what you hunt and where and with what.
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Cylinder is perfect for Skeet (IMHO).....
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I love cyl in my right barrel for wild roosters. Full in left barrel works well too. Close working Springer's, cylinder bore and a good 1200 FPS, 1&1/8 OZ load has proved deadly for me. Just this guys opinion.
Steve
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Ken, that is what I was implying. If you can shoot, you can shoot, choke does not play to much into it. A cylinder choke for skeet is great, but there are many terrific shots that can break skeet with a full choke.
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If you shoot a bobwhite at typical range with a full choke, and center the pattern, you won't have much left.In my younger days,one I killed had the wad in it. That is pretty close.
Mike
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