Thanks L....you are right on...there is " may issue" and " shall issue"... This is the problem .....reasonable legislation is a way of attempting to cloud 2nd amendment rights.....so....pass legislation that is not...and let the gun rights guys fight it....it is a great strategy. The cost and time is what they need to do....wear our resolve down....NRA is on top of this.....when you see statements from mayors against illegal guns...or Blumberg...saying that they are against illegal guns....remember it is really against ALL guns....I think all guys here know that. But we have three Supreme Court justices that love to shoot...maybe there are a couple more.....