Treblig, I handload bismuth but also use Kent Impact TM, the 20ga three-inch 1 1/8 and 12ga 2 1/2-inch 1 1/16. I shoot over decoys; that's enough. One of my buddies ran out of three-inchers two seasons ago and I gave him some pipsqueak TM. He killed a full-bore black at 40 yards and hasn't been the same since. "A lifetime of wasted gunning," he says. For ducks 12ga No. 5, for ducks and geese 20 gauge No. 3 and 4. It's probably just a foolish notion but I think TM is significantly more lethal than bismuth.

Last edited by King Brown; 04/12/07 10:44 PM.