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This is an early B above a mid range serial A. 
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Terry is correct. I have C Grades with more engraving than some B Grades I have owned. It depends on each gun, but mostly on the period. Be aware that serial numbers on Lefevers do not necessarily define the period of production.
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Yep, in the general contracting business the saying was a decent settlement was worth two wins in court. Wins could be appealed.
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Yep, in the general contracting business the saying was a decent settlement was worth two wins in court. Wins could be appealed. Another worthwhile saying: "A contract is only as good as the person you contract with."
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[quote=DrBob]You inherit your Moms diamond and are told it is a c grade 1.5 carat gem and you sell it as that online. You provide photos of the gem some while it is on your Mom's hand. On the way to the meeting in a mall you go into a jewelery store while you wait for your buyer and find the gem is a C grade but weighs nearly 3 carats. Are you obligated to sell a 3 carat gem for the price of a 1.5 carat? Should you ask for more money in addition to the money sent for a 1.5 carat gem?
If I had already received payment for it and had not checked to see what I was selling, yes I would feel obligated to sell it at the agreed upon price. It is my duty to know what I am selling. The contract is verifiable via copies of emails for what that is worth.
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All of this talk about litigation, and the first thing you learn in Law School [HLS '78] is before you even think about filing a lawsuit, you determine your Damages! There is no chance you can prevail here in Equity through Specific Performance [e.g. The court makes her sell you the gun at the agreed price], because it requires the item be unique. In contract law any damages are doubtful; because you bargained for one thing [C Grade] and she had another [B Grade] therefore there was no "meeting of the minds" and no contract exists or can exist, where both parties are bargaining for two totally different items. Besides after practicing Law for 36 years, I better than most know, no one really wins in litigation, except the LAWYERS! I recommend to people if you get your money back a much better, quicker, cheaper, effective solution is to go on the internet REVIEW SITES, e.g. MerchantCircle, Yelp, Google Ads etc. and leave negative reviews. THIS COSTS THEM BUSINESS, WHICH COSTS THEM MONEY AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE READING THESE, WHEN THEY GET A PHONE NUMBER FROM THE SITE! Move on and get the word out. GOOD LUCK Jerry
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Ok...today, an email can constitute a writing and signature....including under the Statute of Frauds...and UCC(real estate practice requires more formal..why...because banks are usual involved)... You guys are trying to put a bunch of definitions together without really knowing what the F you are talking about... .....I am trying to be as brief as the other lawyer here.. The message here is to avoid litigation at all costs...I was just trying to help guys to try and understand.... I sure as hell am not going to debate crap with a non lawyer......So, I will sign off. I like seeing pictures of guns...more the better...this case is over....non lawyers should start to get real and not provide cavalier legal advise....respectfully of course. That seals it! No more legal advise from non lawyers… No more cavalier gunsmithing advise from non gunsmiths, absolutely none :>)
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It is academic now, but, just because it is an interesting legal question, I would say there was no mistake of fact in this situation sufficient to void the contract - both buyer and seller knew the exact specific gun that was being sold. The seller and/or the buyer not knowing the true value of an item happens all the time in business transactions and is not a mistake the law protects against.
Glad DrBob got his money back.
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