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Re: "...oxymorons?" "... close hunting English Pointer"    
 
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I'll take one of my "Classic American" Lefever's over any gun with a frame that resembles a Cigar Box any day of the week, thank you. I will admit that I have a Birmingham built J P Clabrough "Sidelock", while not a "Best" by any stretch of the imagination is a very good shooter which I shoot exceptionally well. I have never measured its drop, but it was built I believe for the American market so does not seem that much straighter. It is one of the few guns I own with cast off most Americans seem to be straight. Of my several Lefevers I only have one on which the drop is excessive for me, & its a very late one, undoubtedly cobbled up at Ithaca. The rest I shoot as well as I shoot about anything. 
 
  
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I've always had a spot reserved for a good 20g Lefever.  I may have to find a project gun and build it up to get one in good enough shape for my liking. 
 
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Re: "...oxymorons?" "... close hunting English Pointer"         
 
  
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I thought this entire thread was an oxymoron... 
 
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Re: "...oxymorons?" "... close hunting English Pointer"    You got that part right!  I've got 8 English Pointers and really only 1.5 of them is suitable for the Grouse woods.   
 
  
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I thought this entire thread was an oxymoron...  +1 What started out as a thread on AMERICAN guns degenerated into something comparable to a couple of old women arguing over which laundry detergent is better.  Does your wife use OXYdol or Tide jOe?    
 
  
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I thought this entire thread was an oxymoron...  What started out as a thread on AMERICAN guns degenerated into something comparable to a couple of old women arguing over which laundry detergent is better.  Does your wife use OXYdol or Tide jOe?    Pretty sure she uses Go-Jo on his tooth.... Best, Ted  
 
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Started out oxymorons, turned into just plain morons.
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Yea, but you shoulda' been here last year when that one idiot was looking for contact info for Gene Hill, so he could chat about one of his guns. I think it was the same guy who didn't know anything about intercepting sears on boxlocks-You can't make this stuff up....
 
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