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Some hog hunters love the Savage/Valmet O/U 12/.308 and similar combos. Some coyote hunters love the same in 12/222; it is especially useful for coyote callers, who sometimes get very short shots (Hunting at dusk in snow, I've had a couple shots that were just TOO short, and was very glad to have a 12 guage loaded with 4s on top of the .222....). Not comfortable with a coyote in my back pocket.
These 12/.222 guns were sold originally as "turkey guns" here, but that just didn't really work well in the US because of the turkey hunting laws here. In Finland they let you use either a shotgun or a rifle for THEIR mega-grouse.
The Valmet combination gun shown in the Gunbroker ad skeetx attached seems to me to have been restocked with a (typically unlovely) later Savage 330 stock. But it has double triggers, which makes better sense than the single selective trigger on my Savage/Valmet 2400s, IMO.
And the 333T he's advertising has 330-style "engraving" unlike any 333 I've ever seen.... Wonder where these guns came from???
Sorry, I'm kinda a Valmet nut. Maybe just a mixed nut.
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Prices on those Savages have really increased; I remember a really cool and nearly mint take down .22/410 model with the original case that I passed on (and have always kicked myself for); pretty sure it was south of $300. The local Cabela's has a regular one (not take down)) and I think it's about $700.
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Pricing at Cabela's is always a crapshoot. The new one near me here is usually pretty heavy on markup. That little Stevens I saw last month in PA was ~$325.
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Sorry about the double post above: my computer was tellin' me that the first one timed out and hadn't been posted....
Arent' ALL Savage/Stevens 24s takedown?
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Maybe they are; I guess I haven't paid enough attention. The one I was talking about had a name - camper or backpacker or something like that - and was in a neat little case. Only one I've ever seen like it. Seemed like it was more compact than others I've seen but maybe not - it was while ago.
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yeah, they made a "Camper" model a while ago, that's the one you saw. But they all take down easily.
My problem with the 24s is that the controls are a little slow to operate; switching barrels just takes too many motions to be really practical. Double triggers are best on a combination gun; double hammers too on a hammer gun.
I have a 24D in .22WRM and .410 that I keep because the rifle barrel is the most accurate of the many .22WRMs that I have had. And, in some ballistic super-coincidence, the .410 barrel shoots slugs to a usable scope POA at around 35 yards. Very helpful should you have to go into the brush for a wounded ground squirrel....
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I had a mod. 24 in .22 over 20 ga. but traded it off because the first cold shot from the .22 was not reliable. What good does it do to group well if the first shot is off. And by off, I mean it was not even consistently placing elsewhere. Always had to follow up with the shotgun. Higher grade guns seem to be more consistent IMO.
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Nice to know, Steve. I've been carrying a Savage 22/20 in my aircraft survival kit for 40 years and haven't fired it. Even forgotten to take it out when crossing into the US. Wipe it yearly but never checked for accuracy when I'll need it. You know where I'll be tomorrow!
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Valmets that I have been around were very accurate, and very reliable. Well made guns. They were made, in Finland, in every gauge and caliber combination imaginable, including O/U rifles. My best friend has several that he hunts with.
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