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Thanks for making my point, Larry. I've actually handled a Martin ribless, but, I'll leave the model 90s for you. BTW, you forgot the most common one-The Ruger Red Label. The center ribs on that one are purely decorative, and pop right off.
I suppose I have to let a few of your senior moments slide, however. At any rate, a happy New Year to you and your's, Larry.

Best,
Ted

Thank you all for your inputs. Are there any perceived or real disadvantages to the rib or lack of it as shown in the second photo?

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Vikram

Vikram,

The advantages I have determined from personal use of borrowed sunken rib doubles are a forward light feel and no place for rust to accumulate unseen. It is so easy to run an oild rag in the space between barrels of a gun with no botto rib, or a single suken rib.

I have also used several ribless over unders and they too have the same advantages. So far I have not come across a totally ribless side by side. It would be nice to heft and shoot a few shots with an Alex Martin someday.

Ted, you must have had too much New Year's cheer and forgot to read your own post--the part about "few guns" being ribless. So you turn around and point out that the Red Label is (or can be) yet another example--along with all the Rem 32's/Krieghoffs, many of the Marlin 90's, etc. Admittedly, far less common in sxs . . . but I guess those hundreds of thousands of ribless guns = "few" over there in Minnesota. Hey, it's been cold . . . guess you haven't been drinking your daily antifreeze to keep the brain cells working. My point is that "few" ain't nearly as few as your post stated--but glad you provided yet another example to agree with me--and disagree with yourself. Here's to less confusion in 2014.

You 'sorta said it all right there Larry. Since it appears you got lost in the topic, and, like usual, forgot where it all began, how many O/Us have you seen with a swamped rib?

We have perhaps five or six examples of guns made without a true middle rib, all but one being O/Us, and you call that thousands? They may have made that many of them, but, there clearly weren't thousands of ribless gun designs.

Make a note of it.


Best,
Ted

I think it's called ol'timers

Teddy you better stick to talking about something you know something about...like Moss'eburg pump guns.

Apologies for going slightly OT...I thought this was referred to as a "feather" or "plume" because of the shape of the transition piece with doll's head (don't know the technical name) and the engraving thereon:



As to the OP, I think Shotgunlover makes a case for less places for rust to hide. My Ideal 314 16 ga pictured above comes in at 5lb 14, and it is lively in the hands. So weight reduction can also be a factor. It also looks cool to me, though only when admiring it, as I don't see it when shooting.

muzzle lite is great for cottontails!

Just as a side note a sunken or ribless gun does not necessarily have to be muzzle light. the barrels themselves can be built heavier, longer or both & even a muzzle heavy ribless gun would be no problem to achieve. I have not handles a Marlin 90 in some time, but as I recall I would not call one of those particularly muzzle light.
The term "FEW" is most often used in a relative manner. When one compares the number of makes/models of sunken rib SxS, Ribless SxS or ribless O/U to those bearing full ribs then in my opinion they are rare indeed. All the models of ribless designs which have been named here I could count on my fingers. How many hands you reckon it would take to get enough fingers to count those having full ribs??? Its quite unusual for me, but this time I have to agree with Ted.