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Just a few thoughts I keep in my head when I am purchasing a new car but it also applies to a new gun or any thing else for that matter.
Never fully believe the person who is trying to sell you something, because behind every sales person there is a commission waiting.
And God would not have created sheep if he did not want them sheared, though I am certainly not one!!!!
When the salesman tells you the price my reply is usually I only want one not a dozen, or does that include share certificates in the business as well.
These retorts usually takes the wind out of their sails a little and put them on the back foot for a second or two making the playing field a little more level.
Well said- recalls the old story about the pricing and point of sales technique used by the Studebaker Wagon Company-- A farmer would come in and ask the price of such and such wagon- and they would throw out a price- If he didn't flinch at that, the sales manager would then add- "Of course, that's just for the basic wagon, the wheels and the tongue are extra"!! I see some high end East Coast gun dealers that have POR in their ads- wonder if they remember the two similar overpriced dealers, one in CA (Ivory Beads?) and of course, Mr. King Ranch himself, in Terrell, Herschel Chaddick- and where they are nowadays-- Funny, but Jaqua's in Findlay OH is still going strong--wonder why???
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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It's like the price for the live lobster in the restaurants: if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein
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Well said- recalls the old story about the pricing and point of sales technique used by the Studebaker Wagon Company-- A farmer would come in and ask the price of such and such wagon- and they would throw out a price- If he didn't flinch at that, the sales manager would then add- "Of course, that's just for the basic wagon, the wheels and the tongue are extra"!! I see some high end East Coast gun dealers that have POR in their ads- wonder if they remember the two similar overpriced dealers, one in CA (Ivory Beads?) and of course, Mr. King Ranch himself, in Terrell, Herschel Chaddick- and where they are nowadays-- Funny, but Jaqua's in Findlay OH is still going strong--wonder why??? It's Chadick. Your post insinuates that the reason the two shops you mention are closed is because of POR listings. Could it be that they closed because of retirement?
Last edited by Wild Skies; 12/21/13 05:42 PM.
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POR and your spending limits are a personal thing. If a dealer wants a POR that is his right. He is not doing it because he thinks the item is under-priced now is he? He knows he might be high and is willing to either dicker or wait until someone meets his price. His right. Yours is to limit what you pay. Either you get an agreement and buy the gun or keep our money. Money talks and BS walks is a valid saying. If I want the gun I lay out the money to close the deal. If it is not enough for the dealer and his price is higher I just pick it up and put it back in my pocket. No harm in trying and most times you know before hand if it will close the deal. POR is fine. If I want to know I ask otherwise I just do not care.
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There is another reason that you see POR; at least on new firearms. If the price is below the maker's MAP "minimum allowed price" limit; then up goes a POR or, "email for our lowest price." Most large makers require and the enforce their MAP agreements.
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