Actually I.M., it really isn't the idiot posters that ruin a site like this. Dave gave us the "ignore" function for any poster here. Sooooo, that sorta tells me that the ruination of the site comes when some (of us, yes, me included) often just can't ignore. We just have to "get back" and the rest of the story is quite predictable. I have been a member of this site for many years now. Thanks to it I got "back" into doubles when I bought a double from my correspondence with Dale Dalrymple on this very site. I have learned and continue to learn, just as Pete stated above. I think Dave does an excellent job and would not agree that his leniency is in any way part of the problem since he gave us the tools to fight with. Anyway, I would encourage you to research and implement that "ignore" function and remain a member and contributor to what I consider to be the best and most informative site of its type in existence on the internet today. Give it some thought!!