Buddy, since you are a friend, I will tell you that we are talking "piece of sh*t", and "end of thread". End of thread is usually kind of a presumptuous command from a little fellow for anyone posting on a thread to stop doing it. Of course, Dick is on our side on this "Tony bashing" business, so he is only using the EOT acronym to describe his action of bailing out. Personally, I think Dick should stay on here to duke it out with the Tony bashers. He has spent as much money with CSMC as you have. He's a pretty nice guy who moderated the Model 21 website. Bill Murphy