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copied this from the web:
Lengthen Forcing Cones - $75.00 per hole...
Briley Manufacturing offers long forcing cone gunsmithing. Need Long Forcing Cones? We have full time gunsmiths ready to assist you. Long forcing cones can improve your shot pattern.
How far can we lengthen your forcing cone? That depends on your shotgun. Each is unique but a better pattern is almost always certain...
Has anyone ever had the forcing cones lengthen in a shotgun barrel? If so, care to relate your experiences here...
Last edited by ed good; 11/05/13 12:21 PM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Anyone looking to lengthen his forcing cone...
Should be prepared to pay more than $75 a ho.
Oops. That shoulda been "hole".
(almost the same thing)
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I HAVE LENGHTENED THE FORCING CONES ON SEVERAL OF MY OLD GUNS. IT SEEMS TO HAVE LESS RECOIL AND THE PATTERNS ARE MORE CONSISTENT.
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Grinding steel out of old shotgun barrels at either end is very foolish. Tailor the ammunition not the barrels for old guns.
People keep grinding up the old barrels thinking they will shoot better and usually they don't. Buy a modern gun that is already the way you want it.
The market place is full of ground up old guns that evidently didn't make it as "keepers" with very reduced values.
Just my opinion of course.
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Mike Orlen will lengthen and polish it for $55 a barrel/hole, and he does excellent work. $65 for a 4" Super Cone. I have no problem endorsing him or Briley. Unfortunately Stan Baker and Ralph Walker are gone.
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I tailor the ammo and still quite I often lengthen theFC as it relieves pressure and improves patterns
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I have lengthened about half of mine, most in the early years of shooting these old guns. Never could tell enough difference to justify it. So, I've stopped. And if you ever want to shoot fiber wads you've really hurt the gun. The purpose of a short cone was to allow the fiber wad to quickly seal the gases. Fiber in a long cone is probably not going to prevent blow by.
John McCain is my war hero.
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Lengthening forcing cones dropped the point of impact on two drillings by six inches. Happened to one as a learning accident, and the other by design to correct patterning on a gun regulated to shoot high. I have not noticed such a change on any other configuration, and have done it to all autos and pumps...but I do it myself, so the price for the reamer just keeps getting cheaper. I don't plan to use fiber wads. Steve
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Yep. I ground the barrels on most all my old SxS's. I'm a shooter, not a curator. And, truth be told, I shoot em pretty good. I don't expect to sell any of them and won't be around to hear anybody whine about the way they were butchered.
On my one and only grouse gun, I ground out the chokes to suit me but left the forcing cones short since I do use 1950's vintage (fiber wads) factory ammo.
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On most vintage American guns--Ithacas and Model 21's being fairly rare exceptions--the chokes weren't marked anyhow. So unless it's a collector gun--higher grade and/or field grade in close to perfect condition and unaltered--who cares if you open the chokes? And who will ever know, unless factory records (if available) are checked? You can usually tell, just by looking, whether cones have been lengthened. But I've never considered that a negative. Lengthening chambers . . . that's taking out a bit too much metal for my comfort level. Although in truth, probably not a safety issue on most 12 bores, or even on smaller bores except those with very light barrels.
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