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The lack of proof marks just shows the gun was made prior to 1891 (if that is the proper date) in Germany. The pinned fore end is also an early feature which somewhat verifies the date of manufacture.
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ok, so it was made by linder in prussia, prior to 1891...however, it just seems strange that there are no other stamps on the gun...it is odd that the Prussians would have been able to resist putting some kind of marks(no puns) on the receiver or barrel flats...I have never seen another European gun sans stamps...but quite a few early American made guns with no stamps.
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US tariff acts of 1891...Geo
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ah so, are you suggesting that gun was intentionally not stamped, so as to avoid paying the import tax? if so, how did it get here? maybe via uboat?
Last edited by ed good; 10/15/13 07:49 PM.
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No Ed, what I was referring to was the Tariff Act's requirement for the "made in _____" stamp. Not needed until the 1891 American Tariff Acts. I do not know whether Prussia required proof marks at the time this gun was built...Geo
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Operating from memory here but I believe there were some proof houses operating in Prussia, but only on a voluntary basis, prior to the proof law of 1891. That being the case, particularly for an export gun destined for the US the maker would have been quite apt to opt out of proof to keep his cost to a minimum.
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guys: I am not talkin about proof marks, such as we know today...what is so strange about this guns is the lack any marks, numbers or letters, except for the serial number. have seen this on early American made guns, but never on a European gun. the European makers, particularly the germans, always put some kind of a mark some where....
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eight: like so many of your other posts on this forum, yours above contributes nothing positive.
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I was just fooling with you. However, many European sourced guns of the time only have an American name on them, like Charles Daly, Thomas Golcher, you name it.
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