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I have a D.M. Lefever crossbolt, unmarked as to grade but probably a 7D grade going by the engraving and other features, that has SD&G (Shoverling Daly and Gales) stamped on the bottom of its' Damascus barrels. Also have seen the Lindner made sidecockers produced under the Lefever patent. J.A. Prechtel of Cleveland, Ohio also apparently built guns on Lefever designs.
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what are you asking? Is this a Linder made Lefever??
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have charles daly hammer gun #2xx. except for the serial numbers, there are no other stamps on the water table nor barrel flats, which suggests that it may have been made by lefever?... following is link to description and pictures: http://www.gunsamerica.com/917152981/CHARLES_DALY_10_GAUGE_HAMMER_GUN.htmyour opinion?
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That doesn't look like a Lefever hammer gun to me based on the lever opener. At that time Lefever was using a thumb push.
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I agree with Dr Bob;
To the best of my knowledge Lefever first used a top lever in the late 1880's on the "Automatic" Hammerless rod cocking gun. This lever was a side pivot one. The gun pictured shows a central pivot lever which Lefever did not use until about 1890 on the Two Hook hammerless guns. Have never heard of a Lefever hammer gun with top lever opening. The thumb push continued through the Side Cockers with internal hammers & on into the early Rod cocking hammerless as mentioned.
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if not lefever, then who? if it were of European origin, then there would be some more stamps, giving us a clue...but there is nothing there except for the serial numbers. and, if this is a later gun, then why the wedge pin and not some kind of forend latch?
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daryl: as I recall, linder was a german maker and baker was an American maker. what is the connection?
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I always thought that Lindner built them utilizing the Lefever side-cocker patent/design. I don't think the gun in question was sourced at all from Lefever...Geo
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ed there are at least two Lindner gunmakers. George Lindner the father and his son H.A. Lindner. Daryl was telling you the maker of your gun was George Lindner (in Prussia, which later became part of Germany I believe). The http://www.bakercollectors.com/ is in Daryl's signature and appears in all his posts, just like my "I am glad to be here" appears in all of mine.
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