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I picked up a Niedner, Malden, Mass. core mould. Too much time on my hands ;-).

This is a three cavity mould missing the sprue plate on the single side, easily made if I ever need to use this.

The core weights 56gr and the diameter is .199", much too long for a .22 center-fire. In modern bullet making what core size would this be for? I have no idea how thick jackets Mr. Niedner used, will have to do some reading.

I think some of the early jackets were made from .22LR brass. If you have a caliper with a small nose, you might measure that and see what results.

Remember the Niedner wildcat that was .23 on .28-30 case? Perhaps they are related.

Rather than a core mold, it looks like a mold for bullets to be paper patched.

I was thinking paper patches too. Perhaps for a .228" wildcat or .22 Savage HiPower. (.228 was a pretty common bore diameter for .22's back then.) (.22 HiPower bullets that work best in my rifles are 3/4" long, those slugs appear to be roughly that long?)

I agree with the two Garys, the core molds I have seen drop cylinder shaped cores, and are adjustable for weight.I admit, however, that I haven't seen everything.
Mike

Hi Michael,
hope you are getting on ok.
If you have too much time on your hands here's a time consuming project.
I make 22 bullets with Corbin dies and jackets, also make them with R/F jackets and thats even more time consuming.
My but I do have trouble posting photo's here. Got there in the end though.
Must make a note this time of how to do it.
The first photo shows swaging the cores, the second the cores in the jackets and the last one showing what happens to the seating die if you use too much pressure.
Best wishes, Roly.
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I have several of Mr. Niedner's bullet making tools, all made for an arbor press. I need to go through it all and see what's there. What is the size of your core wire for .22's?

That's got to take a heck of a lot of pressure to split that die.

Just making a Mann-Niedner base-band bullet takes about thirteen steps from factory bullet to finished product. Like all this sort of stuff very time consuming, Niedner's wife did a lot of core casting and bullet making.

The wire is 4.8mm.
As my son in law is a builder I get scrap lead from him occasionally and I have a four gang mold to cast the cores.
More time consuming.
Stops me from hanging around on street corners I suppose.
Regards.

Nero,
This is all very interesting, I always thought I would like to get into it,but never did. I helped my late friend Gene Enterkin make .358" bullets for custom ammo he sold in .358 Enterkin Mag.This was well before the .358 G&A Alaskan and 250 gr. bullets that would stand up to the 3000 fps were not avaliable.I was impressed with the process, which included soldering the core and jacket together.Alas, his "outfit" was sold and I couldn't afford it.
Mike

I'd be happy to help with that idea. I no longer swage bullets, but did at one time own two different swaging presses and all my bullets are paper patches. It would interesting to see what you could do with a rifle like this.