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Mike, you are right with the "live" Pigeon Gun...!
What Wikepedia says is:

"Kettner erwarb Fabriken in Suhl (Th�ringen) und Porz (K�ln), in denen Tausende von Jagdwaffen produziert und anschlie�end exportiert wurden."

That means, Kettner had own gun and rifle factories with a brand of it's own. "Kettner C�ln-Suhl"
Of course there are working masters of Suhl resp. Cologne as employees.

It was a great "merry-go-round" in that times, Kettner built guns and rifles in Cologne and Suhl. The barrels of those guns were partly imported from Li�ge and finely all were distributed to nearly the whole world.


What Ic12 said is on this picture:



Best regars,
Gunwolf

Gunwolf,
Maybe Axel will come in and straighten this out.Note the Ed.Kettner advertisement is an advertisement and the Wikepedia blurb doesn't differentiate between the Kettners.
Mike

Mike, of course I may be wrong! It's a little bit confusing with this family...!

Kind Regards,
Gunwolf

Gunwolf,
As I have shown before, I can also be wrong.Maybe Axel will weigh in.
Mike

Raimey will weight in and put us on the straight and narrow. It just is not possible for Ed. Kettner to have a factory. Now he may have had a factory storefront in Suhl, but that was for sourcing only. The burden of proof is on the individual who wants to find the non-Suhl Ed. Kettner mechanics who applied their initials to the sporting weapon. Actually they do not exist and the bulk of the work was sourced from Suhl and the minor tweaking of the end product or scope mounts might, might have been performed by a firearms merchant, but anything more was purely sourced for a gun making centre.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Sorry about my photo posting skills. Hopefully they will improve. If you can view the attached photo I think you will agree that Eduard was more than a retailer of other people's firearms. Best regards.
http://s163.photobucket.com/user/welderman_07/media/EKettnerFabrikSuhl_zpsa4eb2650.jpg.html

I certainly have no dog in this little difference of opinion, but I can see that the picture you want us to refer to is a drawing, not a photograph. There are many similar elaborate drawings of factories used in old ads. They could have used actual photographs, but they chose not to. Could have been a reason why they chose not to.

See:
1840
First American patent issued in photography to Alexander Wolcott for his camera.

See the previously mentioned German Gun Collectors Association publications Der Waffenschmied, issues #38 and 40. The Kettners are clarified for you. They were gun retailers, as stated above. There is a reference to a factory being opened in Suhl, but the reference was a fabrication and so stated. They were retailers only, ordering in custom built guns from other makers.

Posting pictures is pretty easy, you have the hard part done getting them into Photobucket.

To the right of the picture is a box with different addresses, pick the bottom one IMG and left click on the address, briefly it should say COPIED and then hit a CTRL and the letter C at the same time. When you want to insert it into a post hit ENTER so you clear your last sentence and hit CTRL and the letter V at the same time.