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I am looking at a gun from vintage doubles, that is a boxlock. It is inscribed H&H on the frame sides, and is being advertised as a holland and holland.. Is this correct?
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could be but a boxlock was made by someone else for holland.
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If I recall correctly the H & H marked action was sometimes accompanied by "Shot & Regulated by Holland & Holland" on the rib. Maybe not the case with this one.
Last edited by 300846; 09/22/13 01:15 PM.
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I would check the underside of the barrels for proof marks before accepting it as a true Holland & Holland. Probably a Belgium knockoff.
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The 16 ga Vintage Doubles has is a 'shot and regulated' gun. Kirby Hoyt would NOT misrepresent a Belgium knockoff as a Holland and Holland IMHO. He's too much a stand up guy for a Mickey Mouse move like that.
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Holland & Holland have sold a number of boxlocks including the Northwood (made by Birmingham maker(s)) and Cavalier models (made by W&C Scott who were for a time owned by H&H.) They were typically better Birmingham guns - which is to say very well made and plainer than London guns.
Google will bring up various links/articles
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A boxlock marketed by Hollands .Plain and simple .
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A boxlock marketed by Hollands .Plain and simple .
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Thanks guys! I have since found that this gun was in fact made by W&C Scott.
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