I knew a man who cut his teeth on shoe boxes full of "seconds" .22's from the UMC factory near where he grew up--his method? Get the old coke bottle caps out of the vending machines and have his friend throw them like tiny skeet. They would flare, dipsy doodle and everything else, and with practice (discounting blooper shells in the seconds) he and his friend could always hit six out of ten, and sometimes eight out of ten with iron sights...Steve