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vangulil,
Off the top of my head(the records are downstairs in the vault),I believe the twist is 1 in 12.The rifle is factory and used standard for caliber twist.As I recall I loaded it to about 3200 fps.If you compare the 60 gr.partition bullet to a 55 gr spitzer, I believe the 60gr is shorter( at least no longer).This is because the nosler is simi-spitzer.In my considered, but often ignored, opinion, this bullet was made to work in normal .223 class rifles.I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a .222 (1 in 14 twist)will stabilize it.I'm sure the additional velocity of .220 or 22-250 will stabilize it with their 1 in 14 twist barrels.It's not the weight of the bullets that counts, its the length( the weight, together with form, affects length).Give it a try, all you can lose is the cost of a box or bullets.
Mike

thanks, Mike. I know that similar rounds (.22-250,etc.) are used for culling deer in several countries and in some US areas. I've never used a .22 for deer, but am contemplating trying my .223 on blacktails here. Would have to use Barnes bullet; gotta save those condors, ya know!

Wish I had as elegant a CF .22 as that H&H! But that may not exist; my Contender sure ISN'T it.....buttugly for sure. Does shoot, tho. For what it's worth, it has an MGM 22" 1-9" twist custom barrel.

Colin Greenwood in his excellent book says that most if not all of the leading gun makers of the time had their rook rifles made in Birmingham and in the Holland and Holland case they were inspected to make sure they were to their standard and henry Joseph Hussey was the man who inspected them and stamped his initials under the barrel. He left Holland and Holland in 1895.
My rifle has his initials stamped so it was made before this date.
Its rifle number 9542 and patent number 1294
It was originally a 297/250 until it was altered some time or other to a 22LR with a liner.
The old liner taken out and a new one in ten barrel put in place and converted back to centre fire.
As Mike says it depends on the shape of the bullet you use. I make my own bullets using Corbin dies and jackets from Corbin which make a very nice 62 grain lead tipped bullet. I also give the bullet a concave base to move the lead forward.
These bullets also shoot very well in my 223 BSA small frame Martini with a one in eight twist. Although all my other small fame Martini's have been converted to a pistol grip stock I kept the original stock on this one as the figure of the wood was so nice and it has the NSW government stamp on it. It also seems nicer to carry all day in this configuration.
As regards to using a 22 centre fire for deer in NZ I think the consensus of opinion is that its not a good idea unless you are a calm, good shot.
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Mike,
My brother used the Barnes in his .220 imp.,it worked, but didn't seem to expand as well as the Nosler.I don't think your Blacktails are too much larger than our Whitetail, so I would guess it would work.I understand they want to save Condors and Eagles, but they would save more by doing away with windmills.
Mike

My experience with the .22 Savage HiPower (5.6X52R) is that it kills whitetail deer like lightning with its 70 grain .228 bullet, but it's not a cartridge to use where there is danger of the bullet hitting an intervening object (weed, twig) and deflecting.

Blacktails are small; a meat buck will weigh less than 100 pounds field dressed, and that's what I usually shoot. Unfortunately they also live in manzanita and other chaparral, and that stuff is made of iron.

Fortunately I'm old and well-fed and don't have to kill anything at all, so I can wait and take a decent shot. I've killed plenty of deer with your HiPower's daddy, the .25-35, so I think the .223 will serve at the modest ranges I can still see.... Just gotta load up some "green" ammo and get a decent accurate combination.

BTW, I've spent a lot of days in the "Condor Reserve" and the last condor I saw was in 1962.... Now Ravens, we got.

Mike,
It sounds like Blacktails are pretty much the same size as our Whitetails.The .223 should work great with careful bullet placement,which seems normal for you anyway.
Mike