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Morning all. Have an ejector Fox 20 gauge SW with 26" barrels and purchased a set of 20 gauge SW extractor barrels (28") the other day in good shape. What might I need to turn those extractor barrels into ejector barrels?
Or plan B, can one fit extractor barrels to a ejector receiver and just use them that way? Thanks mucho. Tut
Last edited by tut; 09/06/13 12:03 PM.
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on My remington 1894 the only difference between and ejector and an extractor gun is the internals of the forend. I would be more concerned with if the new barrels are going to fit the new gun and be on face/tight ect..
have not looked over a Fox SW to make sure, but i assume the forend will make both barrels eject.
if i am wrong, someone will correct me!!
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On extractor guns the extractor is one piece to lift both shells simultaneously. On Ejector guns the extractor/ejector is split so the selective mechanism can work for which ever bbl is fired. With the extractor bbls mounted with the ejector forearm, assuming all else is the same if only one bbl were fired then the ejector lock for that side would have to be doing double duty in trying to eject not only the fired empty, but also the unfired shell as well. Not a real good idea. When both bbls are fired then each ejector lock is ejecting only its single fired empty, even though they both eject together.
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On the Fox, the extractor stem is much shorter than the stems on the ejectors, and hence will only be acted on by the stud at the hinge,  and the ejectors in the forearm iron will never touch it. Two extractor guns above, ejector gun below --  Same holds true for the Remington Hammerless Doubles, and I'd guess many others. Also, while Remington Arms Co. built many (maybe all) of their extractor Hammerless Doubles using empty of ejector parts ejector forearm irons, the mainsprings are different in extractor and ejector Remington Hammerless Doubles.
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Perhaps I'll rephrase. Is it possible to use an extractor barrel with extractor forearm with a ejector receiver? Certainly won't eject, but will it work?
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Tut,
I think you can do that. A quick call to Keith Kearcher will tell you for certain. He is a regular whiz bang with these Foxes. He recently fitted a set of ejector barrels, that had never been fitted to a gun, with ejectors in them, to an extractor A grade receiver, and used an ejector fore-end, for me. It extracts perfectly, just uses split ejectors to do it.
I will eventually swap out the ejectors for an extractor and keep the ejectors as spares for my other Foxes. They're getting harder and harder to come by.
Check your p.m. board.
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The "push tang" on top of the frame knuckle is significantly shorter on an ejector Fox than one set up for extractors. If an extractor barrel with extractor forend are fitted (as a second barrel) to an ejector Fox, the push tang will not be long enough to provide much lift - which might not be a problem with unfired shells, but probably will be with fired hulls. Your best bet is to find a set of 16 gauge ejectors and have them fitted to your barrels. Often the rim cut recesses won't align and they'll have to be overwelded and recut. Alternately TWO 16 gauge ejectors can be modified by cutting in half and extending their stems or even attaching new ones. You'll need two extractors to account for the kerf of the slitting saw or whatever. I did that one time and it's a complex job and not cost effective if you can't do the work yourself. Best bet IMO is to find a bad 16 ejector barrel (split/bulged), scavenge the ejectors, and use the ejector forend with both barrel sets. Silvers
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The "push tang" on top of the frame knuckle is significantly shorter on an ejector Fox than one set up for extractors. If an extractor barrel with extractor forend are fitted (as a second barrel) to an ejector Fox, the push tang will not be long enough to provide much lift - which might not be a problem with unfired shells, but probably will be with fired hulls. Your best bet is to find a set of 16 gauge ejectors and have them fitted to your barrels. Often the rim cut recesses won't align and they'll have to be overwelded and recut. Alternately TWO 16 gauge ejectors can be modified by cutting in half and extending their stems or even attaching new ones. You'll need two extractors to account for the kerf of the slitting saw or whatever. I did that one time and it's a complex job and not cost effective if you can't do the work yourself. Best bet IMO is to find a bad 16 ejector barrel (split/bulged), scavenge the ejectors, and use the ejector forend with both barrel sets. Silvers Thanks Frank.
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