More important with pheasant size loads. As said, I like the B&P MB Classic 1 1/8 oz. at 1330 with 194 5s. It would require 1 3/8 oz. to get 187 4s for the same pattern density, with ALOT more recoil.
Or maybe dr wonko's intellectual inferiors are just interested in knowing.
Bob, I think this discussion wandered somewhat quite a ways back, as the above post indicates. Wonko may have been instrumental in the diversion. (I do kinda wonder about not losing any pheasants, shooting them dogless. Iowa DNR interviews with pheasant hunters, both those who use dogs and those who don't, indicate that both groups lose birds: the dog guys averaging one bird lost for every 10 knocked down--which I know you'll agree is ridiculously high; the dogless guys losing an average of between 2 and 3 for every 10 they knock down. No matter how well you shoot and how much you know about pheasants, a good dog will make you a far more effective pheasant hunter.)
Last edited by L. Brown; 09/07/13 08:12 AM.